This draft wasn't getting us a QB in the first round...

[Joe Fo Sho]

Re: This draft wasn't getting us a QB in the first round...

Technically, Matt Cassel is a Probowl quarterback. He played in one.

The 2010 probowl isn't really relevant today, but I can see the flaw you pointed out with my statement. However, Cassel wasn't on this team when we traded for Sammy, and he still hasn't played a down for us and there's a small possibility that he never will.

It's not so easy to find an All-Pro QB due to supply and demand. We weren't going to get a QB with what we gave up for Sammy, anyway, which is what this thread is about.

This thread is about the ridiculous premise that we'd draft a QB with the 19th pick that we would have had. My original point was that there are other ways we could have improved this team besides a QB at 19.

I'm not going to sit here and whine about that trade.

So you're just going to whine about the people whining then?

I'm glad Watkins is on the team.

So am I.

[better days]

Re: This draft wasn't getting us a QB in the first round...

There have been plenty of respectable WRs who've been franchise tagged and not signed to contracts by other teams, like Demaryius.

Because Thomas wants more money than he is worth.

Which proves the point, Sammy was worth the two first rnd picks because the Bills have him on the cheap for 5 years.

[better days]

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It's only low money for 4 years.

Wouldn't it be awesome to only have used 1 1st round pick on a young probowl caliber WR? Like the Cowboys did with Dez, or the Broncos did with Demaryius, or the Lions with Calvin, or Packers with Jordy or Cobb, or the Bucs with Evans, or the Giants with Beckham, or the Panthers with Benjamin, or blah blah with blah.

Yes it would be awesome if the Bills could have gotten Sammy with only one first rnd pick. But that was not going to happen.

So it is awesome Sammy is a Bill even though it cost two first rnd picks IMO.

If the Bills did not make that trade for Sammy, the Bills would now have Eric Ebron & the #19 pick in this draft.

I would rather have Sammy.

And it is a low cost contract for the full 5 years in comparison to what Sammy would make in year 5 if the Bills did not have the option for that 5th year.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

Re: This draft wasn't getting us a QB in the first round...

There have been plenty of respectable WRs who've been franchise tagged and not signed to contracts by other teams, like Demaryius.

Unless you jack Thomas' year 1 cap hit through the roof, you couldn't get him. Denver has over $20 million in potential cap savings next year just from Manning retiring and cutting Ware.

[swiper]

Re: This draft wasn't getting us a QB in the first round...

The 2010 Pro Bowl isn't relevant to today? LOL.

[Joe Fo Sho]

Re: This draft wasn't getting us a QB in the first round...

Because Thomas wants more money than he is worth.

Which proves the point, Sammy was worth the two first rnd picks because the Bills have him on the cheap for 5 years.

Ok, Ralph.

[Joe Fo Sho]

Re: This draft wasn't getting us a QB in the first round...

Yes it would be awesome if the Bills could have gotten Sammy with only one first rnd pick. But that was not going to happen.

Then so be it.

If the Bills did not make that trade for Sammy, the Bills would now have Eric Ebron & the #19 pick in this draft.

Pure speculation.

[Joe Fo Sho]

Re: This draft wasn't getting us a QB in the first round...

Unless you jack Thomas' year 1 cap hit through the roof, you couldn't get him. Denver has over $20 million in potential cap savings next year just from Manning retiring and cutting Ware.

The point is that no other team is willing to give up 2 1sts for Demaryius, not just the Bills. If Sammy is worth 2 1st round picks and a 4th, why is Demaryius Thomas not worth 2 1sts? Probably because receivers aren't worth 2 1st round draft picks.

How many 1st round picks did Seattle use on their WRs who played in the Super Bowl last year? What about New England?

[Joe Fo Sho]

Re: This draft wasn't getting us a QB in the first round...

The 2010 Pro Bowl isn't relevant to today? LOL.

We don't have the 2010 Matt Cassel on our team, do we?

[swiper]

Re: This draft wasn't getting us a QB in the first round...

Maybe

[better days]

Re: This draft wasn't getting us a QB in the first round...

Then so be it.



Pure speculation.

It was reported that Ebron would have been the Bills pick if the trade for Sammy did not happen.

So be it the Bills don't have the #19 pick in this draft. They have Sammy instead.

[Joe Fo Sho]

Re: This draft wasn't getting us a QB in the first round...

It was reported that Ebron would have been the Bills pick if the trade for Sammy did not happen.

Speculation.

[better days]

Re: This draft wasn't getting us a QB in the first round...

The point is that no other team is willing to give up 2 1sts for Demaryius, not just the Bills. If Sammy is worth 2 1st round picks and a 4th, why is Demaryius Thomas not worth 2 1sts? Probably because receivers aren't worth 2 1st round draft picks.

How many 1st round picks did Seattle use on their WRs who played in the Super Bowl last year? What about New England?

Again, it is not just about the draft picks to sign a tagged player.

It not only involves draft picks but also a LOT of money. And you are signing a player with 4 or 5 years of NFL wear & tear on his body.

And the Seahawks traded a first rnd pick for Percy Harvin who helped them WIN the Super Bowl in 2013 & is now a Buffalo Bill.

[better days]

Re: This draft wasn't getting us a QB in the first round...

Speculation.

LMAO at you with the speculation.

The guy that speculated about the players the Browns COULD have drafted.

[Joe Fo Sho]

Re: This draft wasn't getting us a QB in the first round...

LMAO at you with the speculation.

The guy that speculated about the players the Browns COULD have drafted.

Did you read my argument? I called my point BS at the end, because it's entirely speculative. Except the part where I said that the Browns suck at drafting.