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    Re: Babcock officially becomes a UFA

    This tweet from Sportsnet's Nick Kypreos: Apparently, a source is saying that the Sabres have not given Babcock a timetable to accept the team's long-term offer to become Buffalo's new head coach.
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    Re: Babcock officially becomes a UFA

    Matthew Coller @MatthewWGR · 14m14 minutes ago

    A source close to the situation tells me the Sabres' offer is "in the range of $50 million dollars"

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    Re: Babcock officially becomes a UFA

    Rumored $50 million total compensation package is total of salary and bonuses (make ECF, Cup Finals) over long term (6-7 years)

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    Re: Babcock officially becomes a UFA

    If true, this might be the best $50 million ever spent by the Sabres. (Or the worst, depending on how things shake out.)

    Presuming Babcock is hired, that may very well enable some decent FA's to sign with the Sabres.

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    Re: Babcock officially becomes a UFA

    Presume nothing. The offer is there. His decision is still up in the air.
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    Re: Babcock officially becomes a UFA

    Quote Originally Posted by ckg927 View Post
    If true, this might be the best $50 million ever spent by the Sabres. (Or the worst, depending on how things shake out.)

    Presuming Babcock is hired, that may very well enable some decent FA's to sign with the Sabres.
    This is more than we're paying Rex. $50 M for a hockey coach, wow. Is he really that great and worth that kind of money ??

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    Re: Babcock officially becomes a UFA

    Quote Originally Posted by MitchMurrayDowntown View Post
    $50 M for a hockey coach, wow. Is he really that great and worth that kind of money ??
    Heck no

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    I don't care how much we're overpaying for a Hall of Fame coach, not my money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MitchMurrayDowntown View Post
    This is more than we're paying Rex. $50 M for a hockey coach, wow. Is he really that great and worth that kind of money ??
    "That kind of money" is a relative term to people like Terry Pegula.

    Let's say it works out, and the Sabres win a Stanley Cup in 4 years, right around the same time that ground is being broken on the new Bills stadium in the Old First Ward, coinciding with the first broadcast of OneBuffalo Sports Network.

    Well worth the investment, I'd say.

    This is the difference between Terry and Ralph. The willingness to spend whatever it takes on coaches and players. Terry is a super-fan with unlimited resources. And we are the beneficiaries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WagonCircler View Post
    "That kind of money" is a relative term to people like Terry Pegula.

    Let's say it works out, and the Sabres win a Stanley Cup in 4 years, right around the same time that ground is being broken on the new Bills stadium in the Old First Ward, coinciding with the first broadcast of OneBuffalo Sports Network.

    Well worth the investment, I'd say.

    This is the difference between Terry and Ralph. The willingness to spend whatever it takes on coaches and players. Terry is a super-fan with unlimited resources. And we are the beneficiaries.
    We spent some big money when Pegs bought the Sabres, then we bombed. I like that rest of what you said, hopefully it translates to wins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MitchMurrayDowntown View Post
    We spent some big money when Pegs bought the Sabres, then we bombed. I like that rest of what you said, hopefully it translates to wins.
    We didn't bomb. We tanked. Huge difference.

    Another huge difference is that Pegula is able to recover from financial missteps. They roll off him like water off a duck's back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WagonCircler View Post
    We didn't bomb. We tanked. Huge difference.

    Another huge difference is that Pegula is able to recover from financial missteps. They roll off him like water off a duck's back.
    Lieno ?? He was never in any part of the tank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crisis View Post
    I don't care how much we're overpaying for a Hall of Fame coach, not my money.
    I care how much we pay players because the salary cap is reality.

    However, there is no cap for coaches. If Pegula wants to pay Babcock $50 mil, then that's on him. Get him here.

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    few worries about babcock. 1. if you remember, alot of free agents spurned the red wings, and historically, they didnt have that problem. some people believe that was because of babcocks high intensity coaching. that it was a turn off. 2. coastals offseason becomes a reality. im afraid that babcocks arrival will mean that expectations skyrocket, and young, promising players like zad will be moved to get established, win now players. the rebuild is working, and the sabres have a **** ton of youth that is going to translate into one HELL of a core. i dont want that broken up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JATMtheJATM View Post
    few worries about babcock. 1. if you remember, alot of free agents spurned the red wings, and historically, they didnt have that problem. some people believe that was because of babcocks high intensity coaching. that it was a turn off. 2. coastals offseason becomes a reality. im afraid that babcocks arrival will mean that expectations skyrocket, and young, promising players like zad will be moved to get established, win now players. the rebuild is working, and the sabres have a **** ton of youth that is going to translate into one HELL of a core. i dont want that broken up.
    Has to be a balance. The problem with the Oilers was all these kids and no Vets means no playoffs in 10 years despite all the high picks. Sabres have drafted a ton of young guys and still have an excessive amount of draft picks. Sign/trade to get another 2-3 established forwards since scoring is badly needed.

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    I thought the local news reported Babcock was going to make his decision today, after talking with his family.
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    Re: Babcock officially becomes a UFA

    Yes, that's what he said he was going to do.

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    Re: Babcock officially becomes a UFA

    i think he's more proven than rex, so it makes sense that he's more expensive. plus in football, it seems like long term means 3-5 years while in hockey long term is 5-10 years for both players and coaches. So it's not an apples to apples comparison.

    AS for FA, it's really thinned out with those long term contracts for high performers. they get locked up. he's going to have to get the core to perform for him. and he should see he has an owner who will listen to him. if eichel is the real deal and babs wants him signed to along term deal...he knows that will happen. that wasn't true with TommyG.

    Babcock isn't a riskless endevor. I worry about the bowman syndrome. great before buffalo and after buffalo but struggles in buffalo. the curse could be real.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trapezeus View Post
    i think he's more proven than rex, so it makes sense that he's more expensive. plus in football, it seems like long term means 3-5 years while in hockey long term is 5-10 years for both players and coaches. So it's not an apples to apples comparison.

    AS for FA, it's really thinned out with those long term contracts for high performers. they get locked up. he's going to have to get the core to perform for him. and he should see he has an owner who will listen to him. if eichel is the real deal and babs wants him signed to along term deal...he knows that will happen. that wasn't true with TommyG.

    Babcock isn't a riskless endevor. I worry about the bowman syndrome. great before buffalo and after buffalo but struggles in buffalo. the curse could be real.
    Curses / Jinxes, does everyone from Buffalo believe in voodoo as well ??

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