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    Gruden On The Bills QB Competition

    Chucky thinks EJ Manuel is a mobile quarterback. I don't agree with that, but he still makes a great point.

    Is Manuel mobile? He was forced not to not run last season because he got hurt running the year before.

    EJ Manuel is not nearly as mobile as Kaepernick is. He's too big to run like Kaepernick. The only thing they have in common is their inaccuracy throwing the football.

    Eagerly anticipating training camp, can't wait. I liked what Gruden was implying.

    The quarterback who can make the most plays with their feet is going to win.

    It's a great strategy because the days of the one-dimensional pocket passing QB are soon about to end.

    When a play breaks down, the QB has to improvise, throw the book out of the window and make a play.

    All of the technicalities get erased and the game goes back to how it was played in the backyard: unscripted.

    http://blogs.buffalobills.com/2015/0...b-competition/


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    Re: Gruden On The Bills QB Competition

    Quote Originally Posted by BillsImpossible View Post
    Chucky thinks EJ Manuel is a mobile quarterback. I don't agree with that, but he still makes a great point.

    Is Manuel mobile? He was forced not to not run last season because he got hurt running the year before.

    EJ Manuel is not nearly as mobile as Kaepernick is. He's too big to run like Kaepernick. The only thing they have in common is their inaccuracy throwing the football.

    Eagerly anticipating training camp, can't wait. I liked what Gruden was implying.

    The quarterback who can make the most plays with their feet is going to win.

    It's a great strategy because the days of the one-dimensional pocket passing QB are soon about to end.

    When a play breaks down, the QB has to improvise, throw the book out of the window and make a play.

    All of the technicalities get erased and the game goes back to how it was played in the backyard: unscripted.

    http://blogs.buffalobills.com/2015/0...b-competition/

    Is that your thought, or Gruden's?

    Either way, it's stupid. We've got a bunch of running backs and WR's who can make crazy plays with their feet. We need a QB to make plays with his arm.

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    Re: Gruden On The Bills QB Competition

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37 View Post
    Is that your thought, or Gruden's?

    Either way, it's stupid. We've got a bunch of running backs and WR's who can make crazy plays with their feet. We need a QB to make plays with his arm.
    How did Roman's experiment with Kaepernick making plays with his arm work out last year?

    Is a pocket passing QB something Roman wants?

    I think he wants a QB who can run and pass too.
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    Re: Gruden On The Bills QB Competition

    I think it's stupid to talk about how much you hate someone without talking about how you're going to beat them.

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    Re: Gruden On The Bills QB Competition

    Roman may want a lot of things, but we don't have a QB who can run like Kaepernick or a line that can block like San Francisco's. He needs to build around what we've got.


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    Re: Gruden On The Bills QB Competition

    Quote Originally Posted by IlluminatusUIUC View Post
    Roman may want a lot of things, but we don't have a QB who can run like Kaepernick or a line that can block like San Francisco's. He needs to build around what we've got.
    The Bills do have a QB who can run like Kaepernick in Tyrod Taylor.

    If he can throw too, he's going to be a superstar in the NFL for many years to come.

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    Re: Gruden On The Bills QB Competition

    Quote Originally Posted by BillsImpossible View Post

    If he can throw too, he's going to be a superstar in the NFL for many years to come.
    Oh come on lol

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    Re: Gruden On The Bills QB Competition

    Quote Originally Posted by BillsImpossible View Post
    I think it's stupid to talk about how much you hate someone without talking about how you're going to beat them.
    False equivalency. Hating someone has nothing to do with ability to beat them.

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    Re: Gruden On The Bills QB Competition

    Quote Originally Posted by BillsImpossible View Post
    The Bills do have a QB who can run like Kaepernick in Tyrod Taylor.
    I would have thought that the CJ Spiller experience would have shown people that running fast in shorts doesn't make you a great nfl runner.

    Kaepernick is one of the best running qbs ever. Taylor isn't even close.

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    Re: Gruden On The Bills QB Competition

    EJ Manuel doesn't have the "it" from what I've seen in the NFL to consistently make plays on the run. He spins into pressure, gets myopic about his passing options, etc. He did get it done at Florida St, though.

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    Re: Gruden On The Bills QB Competition

    Back on topic. Who really cares what Gruden thinks about QB's ?

    He went through them like toilet paper when he coached.

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    Re: Gruden On The Bills QB Competition

    Compare the life/career length of a "running QB" vs a classic drop-back QB.

    Running QB may get you 2 to 3 years of running scared before some DT falls on his knee the wrong way.

    Let your QB drop back and throw. And direct your offense. Let your RBs/WRs tote the ball. They are infinitely easier to replace once injured. As witnessed in Buffalo having a lack of QB for so long.
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    Re: Gruden On The Bills QB Competition

    In theory, I agree with you Swiper. Problem is that the college does produce next to no passing QBs anymore. There was Luck. And who else? I mean it does not even have to be of Lucks quality. But if you look at the top ten passing QBs in the NFL they are pretty much all very old.
    Each teams wants a passing QB (well maybe not each team, but almost all), but the options are scarce.

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    Why is anybody worried about the QB position? They spent a gazillion dollars on shiny new toys during free agency, and added a few more in the draft. With all that talent at the skill positions we should be able to coast to the playoffs with the midget trainer taking the snaps.
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    Re: Gruden On The Bills QB Competition

    Quote Originally Posted by Night Train View Post
    Back on topic. Who really cares what Gruden thinks about QB's ?

    He went through them like toilet paper when he coached.
    Adding on to this, if I was Todd McShay I would be beyond pissed that ESPN puts John Gruden on TV on Day 1 of the NFL Draft. You're talking about a guy who spends an entire year trying to come up with catchy phrases for TV v. McShay who spends his whole year watching the players actually getting drafted. I would love to see McShay and Kiper go head to head over the annoyance of Gruden thinking every player drafted is the second coming.
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    Re: Gruden On The Bills QB Competition

    EJ hasn't proven he can run other than out of bounce, short of the first down marker.

    Just because Russell Wilson is the second coming of Michael Vick doesn't mean the league is moving away from pocket passers. If so than we should easily get Luck or Rodgers for a third rounder. Make that deal today.

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    Re: Gruden On The Bills QB Competition

    Quote Originally Posted by DraftBoy View Post
    Adding on to this, if I was Todd McShay I would be beyond pissed that ESPN puts John Gruden on TV on Day 1 of the NFL Draft. You're talking about a guy who spends an entire year trying to come up with catchy phrases for TV v. McShay who spends his whole year watching the players actually getting drafted. I would love to see McShay and Kiper go head to head over the annoyance of Gruden thinking every player drafted is the second coming.
    The tension between Kiper and Gruden couldn't be more obvious. I may disagree with Kiper and McShay on things... but with Gruden, I'm thinking " Why is this buffoon on my TV ? "

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    Re: Gruden On The Bills QB Competition

    gruden on every qb he's ever seen, "What I like about this guy is...." He loves everyone.

    tyrod is like betting on 0 at roulette. if you do it often enough, you'll eventualy hit it. and when you do, you can seem like a genius. but most times it doesn't come up and you just look like a dreamer and a gambler.

    if we are relying on him to be a stud, we have bad management. if he's supposed to be a great back up and push the competition, great. if he also happens to be a little better than advertised, thats' great. anything more than that is gambling and wishing.

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    Re: Gruden On The Bills QB Competition

    Quote Originally Posted by HHURRICANE View Post
    EJ hasn't proven he can run other than out of bounce, short of the first down marker.

    Just because Russell Wilson is the second coming of Michael Vick doesn't mean the league is moving away from pocket passers. If so than we should easily get Luck or Rodgers for a third rounder. Make that deal today.

    Russell Wilson is far closer to the second coming of Steve Young than he is Mike Vick.
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    Re: Gruden On The Bills QB Competition

    funny how every informed national pundit talks about EJ as the starter.


    then i come to this board............... and you would think EJ is the midget from game of thrones.

    that being said Tyrion Lannister as the bills qb would be entertaining oh wait (we did have the flutie era)

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