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When you discuss deflatgate with non football fans
Why do you care about this issue. It makes you look like a hater.
Suck it up, the Super Bowl Champs have owned your team for over 15 years. That's the way it is.
we have a geniune dislike/hatred for the pats....(which you are a fan of).....so get off this board if you dont like the comments of true bills fans.....
The point of the article is that the league and everyone else doesn't give two craps if the team in question is bad. The NFL wants parity and what better way to try and achieve parity than to try and smack down the team who has been basically the best team in the NFL for the past 15 years? They tried with Spygate and failed so now they've moved on to something else.
Who talks about the Browns and textgate? No one. Who talks about the problems the Falcons had? No one. Who talked about the Chargers using a stick um like substance a few years ago? No one. Why were none of these "scandals" talked about? None of those teams matter.
David Carr admitted publicly back in 2006 that he liked deflating the football and wasn't the only one. Where was the NFL investigation? It did not exist. Now why do you think there was no investigation 9 years ago but now apparently it's a big deal?
The NFL wants parity and what better way to try and achieve parity than to try and smack down the team who has been basically the best team in the NFL for the past 15 years? They tried with Spygate and failed so now they've moved on to something else.
Who talks about the Browns and textgate? No one. Who talks about the problems the Falcons had? No one. Who talked about the Chargers using a stick um like substance a few years ago? No one. Why were none of these "scandals" talked about? None of those teams matter.
You mean the teams that fully cooperated with the investigations into their actions and accepted their punishments without suing the NFL? Yeah, why would we be talking about them still?
Don't forget about the Falcons pumping noise into their stadium during games. They admitted that they did it and accepted their punishment too, like they should have. No one is talking about them either.
Do you think that this would be this big of a deal if Brady came out and admitted what he did and apologized for it? Maybe gave a charitable donation with his Superbowl bonus and accepted the small fine that he probably would have got. It would be long gone by now if that's what he did, but he didn't because he doesn't want to tarnish his reputation.
David Carr admitted publicly back in 2006 that he liked deflating the football and wasn't the only one. Where was the NFL investigation? It did not exist. Now why do you think there was no investigation 9 years ago but now apparently it's a big deal?
Someone should have put a complaint into the league 9 years ago, it's not my fault they didn't. Clearly the NFL should be reading every interview done by every player in every media outlet everyday in order to find opportunities to investigate acts of cheating.
I don't even know how to argue this with football fans much less non.
You'd think a heavier ball would be easier to catch and maintain, maybe easier to kick, but harder to throw.
And it still makes no sense to me that the NFL doesn't use standard balls and the refs use multiple gauges and don't maintain custody of the stupid balls, or even why the refs should, the NFL can afford to hire a standard ball guy and backup per game.
To start with, the NFL even lets a guy go into a bathroom with a bag of balls ? What if he gets the poops or has hepatitis or AIDS and gets it all over them. Does that mean the ball guys are regularly health tested and signed off, so then you have to test and sign off their docs, so maybe there is a need for league ball guy physicians ?
Make the stupid balls standard and too damn bad if anyone gripes. Sealed bag, everyone gets the same stupid tested, registered damn balls already and good luck using them. If you can't win using a standard freaking ball get other players who can use it better.
The rule about footballs was changed after the league was petitioned by 20 qbs to allow them to prep their own footballs. Tom Brady & Peyton Manning represented the qbs.
Since then, NO ONE has complained about it, until Ryan Grigson and his equipment manager decided they needed some help to beat the Patriots and came up with this stunt.
Do you REALLY think that Tom Brady's success is because of slightly deflated footballs? That's ridiculous.
And the question of if they actually DID deflate the footballs for a competitive advantage is still not close to being proved.
Don't get sucked in by the haters, they're deluded and emotionally twisted. Take our friend meathead for example. Over the years he's subjected us to reams and reams of new age spiritual twaddle and centrist baloney, and yet with this issue he's foaming at the mouth and wishing for Tom Brady to be burned at the stake. the rest are just as bad. The guys give me bad memories from my youth, when so many weekend flag football games were ruined by schoolyard lawyers who couldn't even stand to lose a pick up game.
There's something about being a football fan that either brings out, or enables, the worst in some people.
We saw it with spygate and we're seeing it again now.
And it's not just reserved to allegations of cheating. I remember back in the 2003 season, Drew Bledsoe went down with a concussion somewhere around game 12. Drew said he was okay, so they started him in the next game and wham, he goes down with ANOTHER concussion. Two concussions in two weeks. So, since the Bills were out of the playoff picture, I suggested that they sit Bledsoe for the next game and let Travis Brown play.
Well, the haters went cra2y and insisted that because they'd paid good money to buy their tickets, well, dammit, they wanted to see Drew Bledsoe play if there was any way he could drag it out on the field.
I pointed out that concussions are serious and two in consecutive weeks was especially dangerous (this was before the league woke up to why head injuries needed to be taken seriously) but the haters didn't care, they didn't want to see the backup in the game. And then they started in on me as a prototypical guy who loves the backup QB more than the starter. Jaw dropping.
So, anyway, don't feel that you have to knuckle under to these jagoffs just because they hide behind being a Bills fan. Football is plagued by drunken buffoons and angry losers working out their personal issues while pretending to be fans, but they aren't.
They're only fans of themselves and the opportunity to act out.
And these are the guys that are behind Roger Goodell and Ted Wells, two sorry excuses for human beings.
Re: When you discuss deflatgate with non football fans
The mistake was allowing the qbs/teams to handle the footballs at all before the game in the first place. Uniformity. What exactly was a qb going to do, exactly, to "prepare" a ball for game time?
The mistake was allowing the qbs/teams to handle the footballs at all before the game in the first place. Uniformity. What exactly was a qb going to do, exactly, to "prepare" a ball for game time?
Still say let the qb play with the pressure they want. Not a big deal. If EJ plays with and 11 psi ball instead of 13 its not going to make a difference. He still is going suck.
Re: When you discuss deflatgate with non football fans
LOL! It's gonna be so funny when Goodell, Wells and Vincent get exposed when this whole thing is overturned.
There's a very good reason why Goodell won't allow an INDEPENDENT arbitrator judge the appeal. Hearing the appeal himself is the only way he can save his sorry ass and rescue the reputations of his two stooges.
Still say let the qb play with the pressure they want. Not a big deal. If EJ plays with and 11 psi ball instead of 13 its not going to make a difference. He still is going suck.
I guess we'll never know. Brady is the only QB who got caught deflating footballs, so we only have him to compare to.
Why do you care about this issue. It makes you look like a hater.
Suck it up, the Super Bowl Champs have owned your team for over 15 years. That's the way it is.
so many times we've heard crap about the integrity of the game as it relates to dancing in the endzone. here is an example where the actual integrity of the game is in question. and frankly it's the tip of the iceberg on how many things they do against the rules. and instead of pointing them out, pats fans want it dismissed.
that's not how the world should work.
you don't have a genius coach. you have one who is willing to bend every rule to win. and he has a qb who is agrees with that philosophy. they could have gotten away with it if they didn't insist on always finishing at the top. now 15 years later, the results look absurd. they don't look dominant as even the best dynasties have never had that level of consistency with no name talent.
a reasonable person is insulted by this charade. and the nfl unfortunately has to start cleaning it up. they let it go to develop this new boston fan base, but now its at the point that it's actually hurting the fan bases that have always been around.
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