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    Re: Seems like some powerful owners are on Goodell's side

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Fo Sho View Post
    http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...dell/27575029/

    The Niners owner supports Goodell, too. They have some Superbowl rings I think.
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    Re: Seems like some powerful owners are on Goodell's side

    Quote Originally Posted by justasportsfan View Post
    3 Due to cheating.
    Which was the one they didn't steal?

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    Re: Seems like some powerful owners are on Goodell's side

    Quote Originally Posted by YardRat View Post
    Kraft needs to be booted by the other 31 owners, and Goodell should go shortly thereafter.
    ok I'll bite. Why should Kraft be booted from the league?

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    Re: Seems like some powerful owners are on Goodell's side

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Cody View Post
    ok I'll bite. Why should Kraft be booted from the league?
    He's manipulation incarnate ?? Kraft's team has been cheating for a long time, so it's time to re-write the whole franchise.

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    Re: Seems like some powerful owners are on Goodell's side

    the league has been more happy getting a new growing fanbase in boston under kraft's leadership, than to protect the integrity of the game. it was obvious from the outset that boston fans weren't going to come out in droves and buy jersey's unless their team was the best. and kraft knows this. he knows how empty the stadium was before. thats why he actually wanted to move the team....remember that, or is this like deflategate protection. throwing out the data that doesn't help your argument.

    but the league has allowed this get to a tipping point. where the other 31 fans are seeing the charade and realizing that it's about protecting this one team to keep the revenues at their highs. and now the league has to deal with potential fall out.

    and what's worse is that the pats won't just take the medicine and go quietly, so now the NFL has to deal with more info coming out on the extent of their cheating.

    so that pats brough in the money train, and they seem intent to take it out.

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    Re: Seems like some powerful owners are on Goodell's side

    maybe Jim Irsay can negotiate the next broadcast contracts for the NFL

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    Re: Seems like some powerful owners are on Goodell's side

    Quote Originally Posted by trapezeus View Post
    the league has been more happy getting a new growing fanbase in boston under kraft's leadership, than to protect the integrity of the game. it was obvious from the outset that boston fans weren't going to come out in droves and buy jersey's unless their team was the best. and kraft knows this. he knows how empty the stadium was before. thats why he actually wanted to move the team....remember that, or is this like deflategate protection. throwing out the data that doesn't help your argument.

    but the league has allowed this get to a tipping point. where the other 31 fans are seeing the charade and realizing that it's about protecting this one team to keep the revenues at their highs. and now the league has to deal with potential fall out.

    and what's worse is that the pats won't just take the medicine and go quietly, so now the NFL has to deal with more info coming out on the extent of their cheating.

    so that pats brough in the money train, and they seem intent to take it out.
    Well, the time is going to come, and I think it will be sooner than later that Brady is no longer relevant in the NFL.

    Then we will see the Pats* fan base for what it was. A HUGE number of band wagon fans like Sparticus.

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    Re: Seems like some powerful owners are on Goodell's side

    I doubt it stadiums been sold out since 1994 this of 55,000 seat waiting list

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    Re: Seems like some powerful owners are on Goodell's side

    Quote Originally Posted by chris66 View Post
    I doubt it stadiums been sold out since 1994 this of 55,000 seat waiting list
    Expect that list to dwindle to nothing when Brady either starts sucking or retires.

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    Re: Seems like some powerful owners are on Goodell's side

    Quote Originally Posted by MitchMurrayDowntown View Post
    He's manipulation incarnate ?? Kraft's team has been cheating for a long time, so it's time to re-write the whole franchise.
    That's not going to happen. How about we worry about rewriting OUR franchise? If they did deflate the footballs a half pound it's a parking ticket not the brinks job.

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    Re: Seems like some powerful owners are on Goodell's side

    Gee, you'd think that if Brady had been cheating, like forever, the guys that would be the most pissed at him would be the players.

    After all, he supposedly stole the pri2e from all NON-Pats players and sullied the achievements of his teammates.

    But no, the players union is not only against any punishment, they apparently don't think he's guilty at all!

    Imagine that, the workers think that the overlords are trying to set up one of their members, not trying to protect the shield.

    Talk about delusional! Who are they to question the motivation of the boss? Don't they know he's in charge?

    They even think that Goodell let Troy Vincent take credit for deciding the punishment, in contravention of the CBA, so he could be sure to judge the appeal so he could make sure it was squashed. Outrageous! Who do these players think they are?

    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-sh...QDBHNlYwNzYw--


    NFLPA to Goodell: You're 'inherently biased' to determine Brady punishment

    By Frank Schwab
    May 15, 2015 11:53 AM
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    The NFLPA's appeal letter to the NFL in Tom Brady's appeal is a good look at how little the union thinks of the NFL's case against Brady and of commissioner Roger Goodell's ability to be neutral.

    The most interesting part might be that the NFLPA said it plans to call Goodell and NFL executive vice president of football operations Troy Vincent, whose name was on the punishment to the New England Patriots and Brady, to testify in the appeal hearing. That's in a clear effort to force Goodell from overseeing the appeal. The same happened in the Ray Rice case, which the NFLPA discusses in its letter. It's probably the best shot the NFLPA has at forcing Goodell's hand. The NFLPA also threatens to go beyond the NFL's appeal process if a neutral party doesn't oversee the appeal.

    "If the Commissioner does not appoint such a neutral arbitrator, the NFLPA and Mr. Brady will seek recusal and pursue all available relief to obtain an arbitrator who is not evidently partial," the letter says.

    There are other interesting parts of their appeal letter, and you can boil it down into three main parts:

    1. The NFLPA doesn't think Goodell should determine the punishment

    It likely won't matter. Goodell has said he will rule over the appeal. It's very clear the NFL would rather take the criticism for not having someone independent rule over the case than to let the flimsy evidence against Brady be heard by someone impartial. A loss in this case would be a real possibility if the appeal was fair, and that would be a huge embarrassment to the league.

    ...and...

    2. The NFLPA has a problem with Vincent handing down the punishment

    The letter is addressed to Vincent. His name was on the punishment to the Patriots and Brady. It's nearly impossible to believe that Goodell wasn't the one making the ultimate determination on such a high-profile case that generated arguably the largest punishment in league history. But that's what the NFL said, and the NFLPA attacked it. The union calls Vincent's involvement "a plain violation of the CBA."

    ,,,and...

    Unless the NFLPA can somehow get Goodell to give up his role overseeing the appeal, perhaps by expressing that it wants him to testify, none of this will matter. Goodell can't lose this appeal, and he obviously won't if he rules on the case. It's unfortunate. A real appeal instead of the farce it will be would have been interesting to watch unfold.

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    Re: Seems like some powerful owners are on Goodell's side

    Quote Originally Posted by Spartacus View Post
    Gee, you'd think that if Brady had been cheating, like forever, the guys that would be the most pissed at him would be the players.

    After all, he supposedly stole the pri2e from all NON-Pats players and sullied the achievements of his teammates.

    But no, the players union is not only against any punishment, they apparently don't think he's guilty at all!

    Imagine that, the workers think that the overlords are trying to set up one of their members, not trying to protect the shield.

    Talk about delusional! Who are they to question the motivation of the boss? Don't they know he's in charge?

    They even think that Goodell let Troy Vincent take credit for deciding the punishment, in contravention of the CBA, so he could be sure to judge the appeal so he could make sure it was squashed. Outrageous! Who do these players think they are?

    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-sh...QDBHNlYwNzYw--


    NFLPA to Goodell: You're 'inherently biased' to determine Brady punishment

    By Frank Schwab
    May 15, 2015 11:53 AM
    Shutdown Corner

    The NFLPA's appeal letter to the NFL in Tom Brady's appeal is a good look at how little the union thinks of the NFL's case against Brady and of commissioner Roger Goodell's ability to be neutral.

    The most interesting part might be that the NFLPA said it plans to call Goodell and NFL executive vice president of football operations Troy Vincent, whose name was on the punishment to the New England Patriots and Brady, to testify in the appeal hearing. That's in a clear effort to force Goodell from overseeing the appeal. The same happened in the Ray Rice case, which the NFLPA discusses in its letter. It's probably the best shot the NFLPA has at forcing Goodell's hand. The NFLPA also threatens to go beyond the NFL's appeal process if a neutral party doesn't oversee the appeal.

    "If the Commissioner does not appoint such a neutral arbitrator, the NFLPA and Mr. Brady will seek recusal and pursue all available relief to obtain an arbitrator who is not evidently partial," the letter says.

    There are other interesting parts of their appeal letter, and you can boil it down into three main parts:

    1. The NFLPA doesn't think Goodell should determine the punishment

    It likely won't matter. Goodell has said he will rule over the appeal. It's very clear the NFL would rather take the criticism for not having someone independent rule over the case than to let the flimsy evidence against Brady be heard by someone impartial. A loss in this case would be a real possibility if the appeal was fair, and that would be a huge embarrassment to the league.

    ...and...

    2. The NFLPA has a problem with Vincent handing down the punishment

    The letter is addressed to Vincent. His name was on the punishment to the Patriots and Brady. It's nearly impossible to believe that Goodell wasn't the one making the ultimate determination on such a high-profile case that generated arguably the largest punishment in league history. But that's what the NFL said, and the NFLPA attacked it. The union calls Vincent's involvement "a plain violation of the CBA."

    ,,,and...

    Unless the NFLPA can somehow get Goodell to give up his role overseeing the appeal, perhaps by expressing that it wants him to testify, none of this will matter. Goodell can't lose this appeal, and he obviously won't if he rules on the case. It's unfortunate. A real appeal instead of the farce it will be would have been interesting to watch unfold.
    The players Union also defends players accused of beating their wives & children.

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    Re: Seems like some powerful owners are on Goodell's side

    **** Belicheck.

    He claims his franchise got the "harshest in league history" when NO had two coaches suspended for a year and multiple player fines, then in the next breath whines that the league isn't "fair and balanced."

    For years, the league has treated the Patriots with kid gloves in terms of officiating and punishing them for wrongdoing. The one time they actually get what they deserve, and Kraft *****es that it's unfair.

    That entire worthless organization can rot in hell.

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    Re: Seems like some powerful owners are on Goodell's side

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    Re: Seems like some powerful owners are on Goodell's side

    Quote Originally Posted by better days View Post
    The players Union also defends players accused of beating their wives & children.
    Do they defend them or just assure due process and uphold the CBA?

    Remember the Magna Carta? Signed almost a millenium in the past?

    Know why it was, and is, significant and how it applies to Goodell?

    Even the King needs to justify his accusations, whether it's for child abuse or football deflation.

    No one sympathi2es with the guilty but the innocent need to be protected.

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    Re: Seems like some powerful owners are on Goodell's side

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37 View Post
    **** Belicheck.

    He claims his franchise got the "harshest in league history" when NO had two coaches suspended for a year and multiple player fines, then in the next breath whines that the league isn't "fair and balanced."

    For years, the league has treated the Patriots with kid gloves in terms of officiating and punishing them for wrongdoing. The one time they actually get what they deserve, and Kraft *****es that it's unfair.

    That entire worthless organization can rot in hell.


    Someone has issues. Did Tom Brady screw your wife?

    I'd hate to see how you'd react if he'd actually done something at all meaningful...

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    Re: Seems like some powerful owners are on Goodell's side

    Kraft decided to not appeal the sanctions against his team.

    For what it's worth

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    Re: Seems like some powerful owners are on Goodell's side

    And Jerry has 3 rings, his voice (as annoying as it is) matters.

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    Re: Seems like some powerful owners are on Goodell's side

    Reluctant' Patriots owner will not appeal 'Deflategate' punishment


    http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/19/us/nfl...ypes=og.shares
    Although I doubt he will do it, maybe Sparty can shut up like Fletch did.

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    Re: Seems like some powerful owners are on Goodell's side

    Quote Originally Posted by EricStratton View Post
    Kraft decided to not appeal the sanctions against his team.

    For what it's worth
    Could be a deal was made between the owners, maybe about the arbitrator, amybe he just thought it was superfluous, since Brady's appeal is unaffected. If Brady's appeal is successful, the sanctions have no basis.

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