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    Re: ESPN Insiders: Tyrod Taylor most impressive of Bills QBs so far

    Quote Originally Posted by Swiper View Post
    LOL. Did you see Kaepernick last season? He's been figured out.

    How many running QBs have to come and go with careers of only 2 -3 productive years or less do people have to see until they go back to wanting a traditional drop back passer who can put the ball into the hands of wide receivers and let them use their legs downfield as opposed to the QBs in the back field. Some people don't get it.
    I think most Bill's fans would gladly take two to three productive years from a running QB while the team continues to search for a drop-back passer, at this point.
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    Re: ESPN Insiders: Tyrod Taylor most impressive of Bills QBs so far

    Rex viewing Taylor as a real option at starting QB may be a reflection of the ongoing transformation of the OL. His skills to avoid pressure and keep plays alive may be the difference.

    Meanwhile, you bulk up at the skill positions on offense and the pressure is reduced considerably for whoever is under center. McCoy, Woods, Watkins, Harvin, Clay and plenty more show the Bills are very healthy in that dept.

    The guy is 25, fast and without any wear on his body. If he shows any accuracy, you could see why he would be the preferred starter in 2015. I have little doubt the Bills will Draft/Acquire another QB in 2016 but this year the draft sucked for QB's and the Vet options were scarce. Cassel and Taylor were probably the best they could do.

    Still think this is it for Manuel. He either has the camp of his life or is gone.

    Rooting for the laundry. Go Bills.

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    Re: ESPN Insiders: Tyrod Taylor most impressive of Bills QBs so far

    Couldn't agree more.
    EJ has three months to do what he has never done. I don't think he can do it. I think he is good as gone.

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    Re: ESPN Insiders: Tyrod Taylor most impressive of Bills QBs so far

    Quote Originally Posted by Night Train View Post
    Rex viewing Taylor as a real option at starting QB may be a reflection of the ongoing transformation of the OL. His skills to avoid pressure and keep plays alive may be the difference.

    Meanwhile, you bulk up at the skill positions on offense and the pressure is reduced considerably for whoever is under center. McCoy, Woods, Watkins, Harvin, Clay and plenty more show the Bills are very healthy in that dept.
    The guy is 25, fast and without any wear on his body. If he shows any accuracy, you could see why he would be the preferred starter in 2015. I have little doubt the Bills will Draft/Acquire another QB in 2016 but this year the draft sucked for QB's and the Vet options were scarce. Cassel and Taylor were probably the best they could do.

    Still think this is it for Manuel. He either has the camp of his life or is gone.

    Rooting for the laundry. Go Bills.
    "a reflection of the ongoing transformation of the OL" is a nice way of saying our OL is crap.

    I agree that the quality of our OL limits the kind of QB we can have under centre and perhaps only a mobile QB can be successful behind it.

    I can't believe that the money spent on Clay and Harvin could not have been better spent on 3 legitimate OL starters.
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    Re: ESPN Insiders: Tyrod Taylor most impressive of Bills QBs so far

    Quote Originally Posted by SpikedLemonade View Post
    "a reflection of the ongoing transformation of the OL" is a nice way of saying our OL is crap.

    I agree that the quality of our OL limits the kind of QB we can have under centre and perhaps only a mobile QB can be successful behind it.

    I can't believe that the money spent on Clay and Harvin could not have been better spent on 3 legitimate OL starters.
    They went after Bulaga (sp?) hard & he ended up taking Less $$$ to stay with Pack.

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    Re: ESPN Insiders: Tyrod Taylor most impressive of Bills QBs so far

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    They went after Bulaga (sp?) hard & he ended up taking Less $$$ to stay with Pack.
    And I will take Clay & Harvin over any 2nd rate OL player the Bills could have gotten.

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    Re: ESPN Insiders: Tyrod Taylor most impressive of Bills QBs so far

    Quote Originally Posted by better days View Post
    And I will take Clay & Harvin over any 2nd rate OL player the Bills could have gotten.
    I have to agree there. The FA market for OL was paper thin. Iaputi didn't wish to leave the west and Bulaga said all along he was staying with GB. The rest were below average.

    Incognito and Miller added to the mix at Guard and some actual positional coaching to go with an established coordinator should be a major positive. I'll give the line a chance before playing taps on a message board.

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    Re: ESPN Insiders: Tyrod Taylor most impressive of Bills QBs so far

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    I think most Bill's fans would gladly take two to three productive years from a running QB while the team continues to search for a drop-back passer, at this point.
    You would take the RGIII debacle in Buffalo? And what they gave up to get that side show failure? Really?

    These guys get lower body injuries just as they are rounding into their prime. It's a great set-up for a disappointing fall from grace every time.

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    Re: ESPN Insiders: Tyrod Taylor most impressive of Bills QBs so far

    Bulaga ended-up re-signing with GB for 5-years at $6.75M/year. If that was less than what the Bills offered, then I'm glad he decided to stay in GB. He's never been a Pro Bowler, even as an alternate, much less an All-Pro.

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    Re: ESPN Insiders: Tyrod Taylor most impressive of Bills QBs so far

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobylal
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    All you have to do is by the right lottery ticket, no?

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    Re: ESPN Insiders: Tyrod Taylor most impressive of Bills QBs so far

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobylal View Post
    Bulaga ended-up re-signing with GB for 5-years at $6.75M/year. If that was less than what the Bills offered, then I'm glad he decided to stay in GB. He's never been a Pro Bowler, even as an alternate, much less an All-Pro.
    It was reported at the time, the Bills offered Bulaga more than he got from GB.

    But it was obviously not enough more to get him out of GB.

    I don't think the Bills wanted him as bad as they wanted Clay.

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    Re: ESPN Insiders: Tyrod Taylor most impressive of Bills QBs so far

    Quote Originally Posted by Swiper View Post
    All you have to do is by the right lottery ticket, no?
    No. Buying a winning lottery ticket, while hard, is not "hard work."
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    It was reported at the time, the Bills offered Bulaga more than he got from GB.

    But it was obviously not enough more to get him out of GB.

    I don't think the Bills wanted him as bad as they wanted Clay.
    Oh, I believe the Bills offered more and that unless it was a crazy offer, he was going to stay. I'm saying that if it was even $7M/year, much less a crazy offer, it was too much for him.

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    Re: ESPN Insiders: Tyrod Taylor most impressive of Bills QBs so far

    I was being facetious Gooby.
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    Re: ESPN Insiders: Tyrod Taylor most impressive of Bills QBs so far

    Quote Originally Posted by Swiper View Post
    I was being facetious Gooby.
    Sorry, I wasn't sure. Because that's the prevailing sentiment of many.

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    Re: ESPN Insiders: Tyrod Taylor most impressive of Bills QBs so far

    Quote Originally Posted by better days View Post
    Well, you are just WRONG.

    EJ has all the measurables that teams look for in a QB, He is Big, can move, & YES he does have an arm.

    I will concede he may not have the brain or the instincts to make it, time will tell.
    All you listed about EJ is all turn to turd because he can't hit the broad side of the barn. His accuracies is atrocious to say the least.

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    Re: ESPN Insiders: Tyrod Taylor most impressive of Bills QBs so far

    Quote Originally Posted by TakingItuptheChin View Post
    All you listed about EJ is all turn to turd because he can't hit the broad side of the barn. His accuracies is atrocious to say the least.
    It is not about accuracy, it is about CONSISTENCY.

    If you look at EJ's highlights on YouTube, you will see accuracy.

    But EJ has exhibited that accuracy less than 60% of the time so far.

    We will see if his consistency has improved when the Bills get to TC.

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    Re: ESPN Insiders: Tyrod Taylor most impressive of Bills QBs so far

    Quote Originally Posted by Swiper View Post
    You would take the RGIII debacle in Buffalo? And what they gave up to get that side show failure? Really?

    These guys get lower body injuries just as they are rounding into their prime. It's a great set-up for a disappointing fall from grace every time.
    No, that wasn't the point. Nobody is suggesting giving up the farm for a running QB, and RGIII doesn't exactly fit the "2-3 productive years" description anyway. There also is a completely opposite sentiment from buying-in on a running QB as a keeper in my comments. The point is getting a couple of productive seasons out of a Tyrod Taylor-type while they are searching for a drop-back passer would be better than what we've had this century and most fans would welcome that.

    I really don't like the Vicks, Taylors, and Kaps of the NFL world, never have, but if one can step up and play well enough to lead the team to the playoffs and the front office keeps trying to find the franchise guy I'd be good with that.

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    Re: ESPN Insiders: Tyrod Taylor most impressive of Bills QBs so far

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    More like Rex needs to see a neurologist.

    I wouldn't put a whole lot of stock in any of this. This is even more laughable than the beat reporters pimping some late round running back in the first week of camp who invariably are out with the next cut.

    This guy has about as much chance of getting the starting job as I do and I'll put an ice cold Labatt on the line for anyone that thinks otherwise.
    So when are you starting?

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    Re: ESPN Insiders: Tyrod Taylor most impressive of Bills QBs so far

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    So when are you starting?
    Hah! I am going to serve up my hat and wash it down with a Labatt.

    Though no one took me up, I'll be home for Thanksgiving and will gladly buy any of you folks a Labatt. Two if they are 7-3 or better. And I will do it gladly!
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