EJ's draft breakdown on weaknesses is scary accurate

[Skooby]

Does any of this sound familiar??




http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/...uel?id=2539228

Weaknesses


Gives opponents too many chances for turnovers by forcing throws into coverage trying to make a play. Area code accuracy – short throws are often low or wide, preventing receivers from making a play after the catch. Deep ball accuracy is uneven, as well. Gets happy feet under pressure, spins to the outside to avoid the rush. Inconsistent recognizing blitz. Must step into his throws more consistently to fully utilize his arm strength.

[sudzy]

NFL Comparison

Blaine Gabbert

This is what we were shooting for?

[Skooby]

This is what we were shooting for?

Mid 1st round none the less, unlike the average NFL consensus of a 3rd round pick that's going to be a project.

[Meathead]

still a reasonable gamble at the time. they knew they overdrafted but their strategy was to try to pick the guy that would blossom. looks unlikely now and in hindsight it looks a lot worse but its a dice rall and that roll is still technically in play so it could still rally

its like playing wrong way craps, you roll a seven and you get a career backup or worse, you roll craps and you get a starter. but you gotta take the rolls one way or another to win. if you dont know how to play wrong way craps then move on this is not for your kind

[Skooby]

still a reasonable gamble at the time. they knew they overdrafted but their strategy was to try to pick the guy that would blossom. looks unlikely now and in hindsight it looks a lot worse but its a dice rall and that roll is still technically in play so it could still rally

its like playing wrong way craps, you roll a seven and you get a career backup or worse, you roll craps and you get a starter. but you gotta take the rolls one way or another to win. if you dont know how to play wrong way craps then move on this is not for your kind

Couldn't we have rolled the dice later than mid-first ? Who was going to draft him before or even near that ?? I'll go with nobody & not in the first round. We got Kiko with that extra 2nd round pick, who has now turned into LeSean McCoy.

[Topas]

Well, we complain that they never take a QB. And when they make sure that they get their guy then we complain also. Would you have preferred that they wait until the second round and maybe then he would have benn gone and we draft a safety!?!?!?
I am fully behind the strategy of throwing the kitchen sink at the QB position. I don't have a problem with drafting EJ in the first. I have more of a problem with the years when we did not draft a QB in the first.

[Skooby]

Well, we complain that they never take a QB. And when they make sure that they get their guy then we complain also. Would you have preferred that they wait until the second round and maybe then he would have benn gone and we draft a safety!?!?!?
I am fully behind the strategy of throwing the kitchen sink at the QB position. I don't have a problem with drafting EJ in the first. I have more of a problem with the years when we did not draft a QB in the first.

Area code accuracy is a huge red flag & it hasn't changed.

[Night Train]

The issue was Buddy Nix was leaving and Ralph/Brandon kept their word that they would let him pick a QB in Round 1 before going out the door, post draft. This is it for Manuel this summer. Show something or be gone. Cassel and Taylor are transition QB's until next year. Running the ball and playing good D will indeed be the primary plan.

I'm hoping with a new owner and a good working relationship between Whaley & Ryan that those days are gone. The way the Bills did business was absurd for far too long. Too much Ralph losing touch and treating the team as a part time hobby.

[Albany,n.y.]

The issue was Buddy Nix was leaving and Ralph/Brandon kept their word that they would let him pick a QB in Round 1 before going out the door, post draft. This is it for Manuel this summer. Show something or be gone. Cassel and Taylor are transition QB's until next year. Running the ball and playing good D will indeed be the primary plan.

I'm hoping with a new owner and a good working relationship between Whaley & Ryan that those days are gone. The way the Bills did business was absurd for far too long. Too much Ralph losing touch and treating the team as a part time hobby.

Nix being allowed to pick a QB on his way out was like allowing Pops to try to fix George's Jon Voight car.

[The Jokeman]

Does any of this sound familiar??




http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/...uel?id=2539228

I don't see EJ penchant to throwing INTs as that reports eludes. I will agree he doesn't see to throw to a spot as maybe he doesn't trust as his receivers yet to get to the spot. Ie he only throws to guys that are open which seems most young QBs struggle with.

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Nix being allowed to pick a QB on his way out was like allowing Pops to try to fix George's Jon Voight car.

All things considered EJ might be the best QB of his class, so I don't know if we can fault Nix for that. Now saying he reached for EJ is definately a worry but considered we ended up getting Kiko/Shady to move down to get EJ for what turned into Tavon Austin I wouldn't say it was a bad use of our original 1st Round pick.

[Topas]

Area code accuracy is a huge red flag & it hasn't changed.

As said, it is easy to criticize that move. Especially afterwards when it did not work out. SF drafted the basically same QB (Kap) and everybody here said, how we failed to not draft him. There are only so many Aaron Rodgers available.
What would you have done?

[EricStratton]

Top ten QB's last season in QBR are all over 30.

Players do mature and grow into the position.

[The Jokeman]

Top ten QB's last season in QBR are all over 30.

Players do mature and grow into the position.

But But But Russell Wilson didn't. Of course people want to forget he was the exception not the rule. That said Russell is a glorified game manager.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

Top ten QB's last season in QBR are all over 30.

Players do mature and grow into the position.

I think that's less players growing into the position and more the talent pool from colleges changing. The shotgun spread/dual threat QB offenses are all over the place, and so you wind up with guys who have dominated college but never taken a single traditional dropback. Go back even to 2008 when QBR was first rolled out and 6 of the top 10 (Ryan, Cutler, Rivers, Rodgers, Brees, Schaub) were all in their 20s.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

But But But Russell Wilson didn't. Of course people want to forget he was the exception not the rule. That said Russell is a glorified game manager.

Alex Smith and Andy Dalton are game managers. Russell Wilson isn't in the elite tier of QBs, but he's not a game manager or that term has no meaning.

[Bill Cody]

news flash: finding a QB is hard

[better days]

From the article:


Bottom line: ."...and hope he can improve on his consistency."

IMO, that really is the bottom line. If EJ can do that we have a QB, if not we have to keep looking.

[Meathead]

I'm pretty sure we are going to see something completely different then we saw his last couple of outings. a lot of people are going to be very surprised at how much better he looks. now whether that translates into games, and whether he can keep the job that's an entirely different question but he's not going to be bambi staring down a semi anymore

[Skooby]

I'm pretty sure we are going to see something completely different then we saw his last couple of outings. a lot of people are going to be very surprised at how much better he looks. now whether that translates into games, and whether he can keep the job that's an entirely different question but he's not going to be bambi staring down a semi anymore

EJ bombed last pre-season, then the coaches used the excuse of vanilla game-planning. Then the regular season started & the bomb continued until the plug was pulled after game 4, Orton literally coming in cold but better. Now we're hoping for him to be something different again ??

Lets dream at night, not during the day.

[better days]

EJ bombed last pre-season, then the coaches used the excuse of vanilla game-planning. Then the regular season started & the bomb continued until the plug was pulled after game 4, Orton literally coming in cold but better. Now we're hoping for him to be something different again ??

Lets dream at night, not during the day.

John Lennon: You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one.

I may be dreaming, but I want to see EJ after he has had an actual NFL Coach & OC.