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    Spotrac contract prediction for Marcel Dareus: 5 years, $77.6 million, 36.47 gtd

    I would send champagne to Whaley's office if we got the deal done at those numbers, considering that deal Suh just signed.

    http://www.spotrac.com/research/nfl/...ll-dareus-515/
    Value of the Contract
    Our base contract figures provided a deal averaging just above $14.2M per season, a number that would rank him 3rd among all NFL defensive tackles. When including our prime percentages (both of which he achieved positive values for), we're given the following:

    Low Value (Hometown Discount)
    Utilizing our Average Prime Percentage (+8.04%), we're provided with a contract averaging $15.3M per year, slightly less than McCoy's extension in Tampa.
    5 years, $76,893,706 | $15,378,741 per year | $36,293,829 guaranteed
    Maximum Value
    Utilizing our Median Prime Percentage (22.81%), we're provided with a contract averaging more than $18.8M per year - just less than Suh's deal in Miami.
    5 years, $94,433,161 | $18,886,6325 per year | $44,572,451 guaranteed
    ...

    The current Bills front office has shown that when they believe in a player, they'll front-load guaranteed money to make the deal work (see TE Charles Clay and DE Jerry Hughes). While the reliability of Dareus may be a concern, he's a hard position to replace at his age & skill-level. With that being said, he simply hasn't shown that he's as valuable to his team on an individual basis (nor consistently statistically productive) as McCoy or Suh over the past two seasons. For this reason, Dareus' true value should lean more on the Low Value, rather than the Maximum


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    Re: Spotrac contract prediction for Marcel Dareus: 5 years, $77.6 million, 36.47 gtd

    I'm guessing it's closer to the maximum.
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    Re: Spotrac contract prediction for Marcel Dareus: 5 years, $77.6 million, 36.47 gtd

    Quote Originally Posted by IlluminatusUIUC View Post
    I would send champagne to Whaley's office if we got the deal done at those numbers, considering that deal Suh just signed.

    http://www.spotrac.com/research/nfl/...ll-dareus-515/
    I don't get why they think he'll make less than McCoy. As they've played almost the same amount of games but McCoy has been in the league one more season yet their stats are almost identical except Dareus has a few more sacks, tackles and is a bigger player. Granted Tampa hasn't had the surrounding cast that we have but the debate is Dareus a product of the players around him or are they a product of him? I imagine it's a little bit of both. Call me a homer but Dareus as a better player than McCoy. Toss in most agents strive for their players to get the most money especially as good as Dareus as he was arguably the best DT in the NFL last season. Getting less than Suh makes some sense if count the hometown discount but don't expect it to much lower than Suh.

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    Re: Spotrac contract prediction for Marcel Dareus: 5 years, $77.6 million, 36.47 gtd

    I expect he'll get a deal that's bigger than Suh's by a little but in real terms it'll be a little less. So a touch less guaranteed money, a touch more total contract value.

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    Re: Spotrac contract prediction for Marcel Dareus: 5 years, $77.6 million, 36.47 gtd

    Quote Originally Posted by The Jokeman View Post
    I don't get why they think he'll make less than McCoy. As they've played almost the same amount of games but McCoy has been in the league one more season yet their stats are almost identical except Dareus has a few more sacks, tackles and is a bigger player.
    Both the "Dareus is partially a product of his teammates" angle and "Dareus has character red flags" angle.

    Personally I don't think either of those will wash, he'll get close to Suh's deal and deserves it.

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    Re: Spotrac contract prediction for Marcel Dareus: 5 years, $77.6 million, 36.47 gtd

    You can't keep paying DTs this kind of money. It's unsustainable.

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    Re: Spotrac contract prediction for Marcel Dareus: 5 years, $77.6 million, 36.47 gtd

    Well they can pay this dt and they better do it.
    Plays at that position, at that skill level and at that age are hard to find, and the Bills have one.
    They all feed off of each other but he is the kingpin imo. He is the one making everyone around him better.
    Just look at what happened last year in Oakland when he went down.
    He is a must sign and I don't care how they do it or who they have to let walk.

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    Re: Spotrac contract prediction for Marcel Dareus: 5 years, $77.6 million, 36.47 gtd

    Quote Originally Posted by jimmifli View Post
    I expect he'll get a deal that's bigger than Suh's by a little but in real terms it'll be a little less. So a touch less guaranteed money, a touch more total contract value.
    I agree.

    There is no such thing as a hometown discount in professional sports.

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    Re: Spotrac contract prediction for Marcel Dareus: 5 years, $77.6 million, 36.47 gtd

    Quote Originally Posted by SpikedLemonade View Post
    I agree.

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    Re: Spotrac contract prediction for Marcel Dareus: 5 years, $77.6 million, 36.47 gtd

    Quote Originally Posted by YardRat View Post
    I'm guessing it's closer to the maximum.
    I'm fine with it if we can manage to keep the cap hit at 7-8 mill for the first year.
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    Re: Spotrac contract prediction for Marcel Dareus: 5 years, $77.6 million, 36.47 gtd

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    That's because he knows he'll look like the 6th round draft pick he is anywhere else outside of New England.

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    Re: Spotrac contract prediction for Marcel Dareus: 5 years, $77.6 million, 36.47 gtd

    He disappeared the 2nd half of the season. No where near worth Suh.

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    He disappeared the 2nd half of the season. No where near worth Suh.

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    Re: Spotrac contract prediction for Marcel Dareus: 5 years, $77.6 million, 36.47 gtd

    He'll get more than that.

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    Re: Spotrac contract prediction for Marcel Dareus: 5 years, $77.6 million, 36.47 gtd

    if he gets to the probowl again, it will be +$100mil

    especially since he's a better pass rusher then Suh is
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    Re: Spotrac contract prediction for Marcel Dareus: 5 years, $77.6 million, 36.47 gtd

    It's gonna have to be 100 million plus.

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    Re: Spotrac contract prediction for Marcel Dareus: 5 years, $77.6 million, 36.47 gtd

    Quote Originally Posted by DynaPaul View Post
    That's because he knows he'll look like the 6th round draft pick he is anywhere else outside of New England.
    Or they paid him under the table.

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    Re: Spotrac contract prediction for Marcel Dareus: 5 years, $77.6 million, 36.47 gtd

    I think there's a good chance his contract could exceed Suh's simply because he's every bit as good a player and doesn't come with as much baggage Suh brings. Let's face it, Suh is probably another dirty play away from getting a nice long suspension.

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    Re: Spotrac contract prediction for Marcel Dareus: 5 years, $77.6 million, 36.47 gtd

    He'll be the highest paid DT in the NFL when its all said and done and he's worth every penny. Whaley has to get this done, no matter what.
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    Re: Spotrac contract prediction for Marcel Dareus: 5 years, $77.6 million, 36.47 gtd

    So long, and thanks for all the shoes.

    No way the Bills can afford him under the cap with all the spending this off-season.

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    Re: Spotrac contract prediction for Marcel Dareus: 5 years, $77.6 million, 36.47 gtd

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37 View Post
    So long, and thanks for all the shoes.

    No way the Bills can afford him under the cap with all the spending this off-season.
    Not to mention Quartebacks when Super Bowls, DT do not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DraftBoy View Post
    He'll be the highest paid DT in the NFL when its all said and done and he's worth every penny. Whaley has to get this done, no matter what.
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