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    Re: Hodgson

    If he can keep up with the play.

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    Re: Hodgson

    Quote Originally Posted by JATMtheJATM View Post
    I'm glad to see he's working on his speed. Also that he's willing to work to get better. But he's not part of the long term plan anymore, unless something in him changes dramatically. I like the idea of keeping him as a stop gap and hoping that he gets better enough to get some kind of return, but I admit I hate giving up someone for nothing
    if you buy that he's a stafford guy where the light is never going to go on right now, then what you are getting in return is putting in a guy who is logging NHL minutes and getting acclimated to the game.

    there is an opportunity cost to sticking it out with hodgson. his time was last year during what was known to be a lost season. and he got significantly worse. he was old enough that you should have seen him be good for short bursts. and we never saw it. tyler ennis showed bursts and consistency. you can argue that on a good team, he will be very valuable.

    you are gambling with hodgson with unlikely chances to succeed. put up other guys and give them a chance if they show they are hungry and an asset.

    i'm usually with you jatmthejatm. i think patience is needed with young players, but hodgson is old enough to have gotten it.

    if we were a great team and needed a guy who could maybe score 12-18 goals on the 3 or 4th line, then he's worth keeping. but we aren't there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trapezeus View Post
    if you buy that he's a stafford guy where the light is never going to go on right now, then what you are getting in return is putting in a guy who is logging NHL minutes and getting acclimated to the game.

    there is an opportunity cost to sticking it out with hodgson. his time was last year during what was known to be a lost season. and he got significantly worse. he was old enough that you should have seen him be good for short bursts. and we never saw it. tyler ennis showed bursts and consistency. you can argue that on a good team, he will be very valuable.

    you are gambling with hodgson with unlikely chances to succeed. put up other guys and give them a chance if they show they are hungry and an asset.

    i'm usually with you jatmthejatm. i think patience is needed with young players, but hodgson is old enough to have gotten it.

    if we were a great team and needed a guy who could maybe score 12-18 goals on the 3 or 4th line, then he's worth keeping. but we aren't there.
    The problem is, hodgson has gotten it in the past, at least been productive. But the idea that Hodgson is going to be part of the team going forward is probably out either way. I like the idea of him being a stop gap player till the kids are ready, but the buyout penalty...
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    So I saw a hypothetical trade that may or may not be being discussed in the real NHL circles, but I figured I'd toss it out here to see how people felt.

    Hodgson goes to LA, richards comes to buffalo. Buffalo retains part of hodgson's salary and gets LA out of cap jail. But here's the kicker. LA would also add in a major asset, like a first round pick, or top end prospect. How would any of you feel about that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JATMtheJATM View Post
    So I saw a hypothetical trade that may or may not be being discussed in the real NHL circles, but I figured I'd toss it out here to see how people felt.

    Hodgson goes to LA, richards comes to buffalo. Buffalo retains part of hodgson's salary and gets LA out of cap jail. But here's the kicker. LA would also add in a major asset, like a first round pick, or top end prospect. How would any of you feel about that?
    I think I would take the trade straight up. Getting extra would be gravy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chernobylwraiths View Post
    I think I would take the trade straight up. Getting extra would be gravy.
    richards contract and decline in play scares me. but a top end prospect would be great to add to the pile of youth we already have.

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    didn't Richards have concussion issues?

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    And a brutal recapture if he retires?
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    Re: Hodgson

    How bout just buy his dumbass out?

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    Re: Hodgson

    And then what? Play him at centre at the expense of developing Reinhardt or Eichel? It is a standard garbage for garbage trade but if you would have to retain salary, why not buy him out and retain that without taking a 7 million dollar train wreck.

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    what if part of the compensation is their backup goalie or developmental goalie. Doesn't LA have a pretty good backup and young?

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    and I thought recapture penalties were paid by the team who signed the original contract?

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    Re: Hodgson

    Martin Jones is RFA I believe and is better than what you have on the roster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mightysimi View Post
    And then what? Play him at centre at the expense of developing Reinhardt or Eichel? It is a standard garbage for garbage trade but if you would have to retain salary, why not buy him out and retain that without taking a 7 million dollar train wreck.
    I think that's the plan. Buy out richards after getting him, keeping the asset

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    Quote Originally Posted by chernobylwraiths View Post
    what if part of the compensation is their backup goalie or developmental goalie. Doesn't LA have a pretty good backup and young?

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    and I thought recapture penalties were paid by the team who signed the original contract?
    Recapture is paid by the kings, I believe

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    Re: Hodgson

    Quote Originally Posted by JATMtheJATM View Post
    So I saw a hypothetical trade that may or may not be being discussed in the real NHL circles, but I figured I'd toss it out here to see how people felt.

    Hodgson goes to LA, richards comes to buffalo. Buffalo retains part of hodgson's salary and gets LA out of cap jail. But here's the kicker. LA would also add in a major asset, like a first round pick, or top end prospect. How would any of you feel about that?
    Forget the picks/prospects we need NHL players. I'd rather see us moving pick #21 maybe a pick in 2016 and Grigorenko, CoHo for Richards and Tyler Toffoli. Yet I know it's a pipe dream.
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    Re: Hodgson

    Girgs? Or grigo? Girgs is untouchable

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    Quote Originally Posted by JATMtheJATM View Post
    Girgs? Or grigo? Girgs is untouchable
    I edited, I meant Grigo.

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    Re: Hodgson

    There ya go

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    Re: Hodgson

    buy-out period ends tuesday. still waiting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JATMtheJATM View Post
    buy-out period ends tuesday. still waiting.

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