Russell Wilson - What would you pay and who would you trade for him?

[Mr. Miyagi]

Russell Wilson will be demanding a huge contract, upwards of $25 million a year. Seattle is standing back at this point. Not that they would realistically trade him away, but there's a point where it's getting too expensive for them and the right offer would get a deal done. That would likely include a multiple player and draft picks deal.

We all think that we're a quarterback away from being elite. Which player would you trade along with draft picks for Wilson?

[ICRockets]

The only players I wouldn't offer in a trade are Sammy Watkins, Nigel Bradham, and Marcel Dareus. Short of those 3, I'll give the Seahawks anybody they want plus our 1st and 3rd next year.

[HHURRICANE]

Am I the only guy who doesn't think he's worth it?

Sorry but I'll pass.

[trapezeus]

What is seattles issue? Are they up against cap now or are they just milking the rookie deal knowing the Wilson is amicable and won't fight it?

Carrol was riding the Seahawks into the ground before he lucked into Wilson. They should be grateful and pay him his market rate unless they have some cap hell they are dealing with

[Yasgur's Farm]

Mario Williams, EJ and 2016 1st.

[GreedoII]

2 1sts and Dareus gets it done and sign him to the contract you were going to give Dareus.

[Jaybird]

It would take minimum 2 1st plus plus. Look at the rg3 trade. St. Louis got more for unproven player.
2-1st round (potentially a third)
A second and third
Proven player

I'm not saying I would do it, but the cost would be that high

[trapezeus]

when does russell wilson get to free agency. if they dick him this season without a contract, he should make them sweat by not signing when free agency comes up and go to the highest bidder.

there are a lot of teams like the bills who haven't had a star qb in 10-15+ years and would pay out the nose to get one.

[Mr. Miyagi]

2 1sts and Dareus gets it done and sign him to the contract you were going to give Dareus.

I love Dareus but I would definitely be happy with that, although I think they would want more.

[DraftBoy]

What is seattles issue? Are they up against cap now or are they just milking the rookie deal knowing the Wilson is amicable and won't fight it?

Carrol was riding the Seahawks into the ground before he lucked into Wilson. They should be grateful and pay him his market rate unless they have some cap hell they are dealing with

Seattle has always had tight pockets and have over $9.5 currently available in cap space and a projected $38 million for next year (assuming $150 million cap).

So here is the issue at hand, the Hawks have 12 starters that are set to become FA's next year;
Russell Wilson
Russell Okung
Jermaine Kearse
Bruce Irvin
Brandon Mebane
Jon Ryan
Bobby Wagner
Ricardo Lockette
JR Sweezy
Tony McDaniel
Will Blackmon
Jeremy Lane

All of those players are guys they likely want to resign but have to find the money to do it. Giving Wilson $24+ million puts a huge hole in the projected $38 million in cap space. Okung is arguably a Top 10 LT and will get paid a good amount of money. Irvin, Wagner, and Mebane are guys who will also be getting hefty raises.

Also the Top 6 salaries for the Hawks next year are Richard Sherman, Marshawn Lynch, Cliff Avril, Jimmy Graham, Micheal Bennett, and Earl Thomas. None of those guys are getting reworked imo.

That's the issue the Hawks find themselves in currently.

[OpIv37]

From a Bills' perspective, this is irrelevant.

The only way we could afford him under the cap would be to create other holes that we wouldn't be able to afford to fill.

[trapezeus]

interesting, draftboy. thanks for that insight.

wouldnt every fanbase (speficially ones who haven't had a qb in a long time) say, "sign the top 10 QB and keep drafting at the other positions."

i think russell is a legit qb; i also get that others don't see it that way. i dont think its a system that makes him better. Carroll teams sucked with lesser qbs. I agree, you also want a stud LT. but the other players on that list, i feel like if they walk, they walk. the QB is the priority. and i think when he's a face of a franchise like that, you don't want to be stringing him along on an old deal.

Especially for a guy who has been durable and hasn't missed noticable time. if you feel like he's injury prone, that's one thing. but to me russell wilson should have been re-upped after the superbowl win.

[Mr. Miyagi]

From a Bills' perspective, this is irrelevant.

The only way we could afford him under the cap would be to create other holes that we wouldn't be able to afford to fill.

Every team has holes, no one has the cap room to have stars in every position. Unfortunately our biggest hole is at the most important position. I'd rather put the money towards filling that hole and thin out at a position of our biggest strength, which is our DL. Having 4 probowl linemen is great, but I could live with just 3.

[Mr. Miyagi]

I hope our FO at least gave Seattle a feeler call to see what they'd theoretically want.

[OpIv37]

Every team has holes, no one has the cap room to have stars in every position. Unfortunately our biggest hole is at the most important position. I'd rather put the money towards filling that hole and thin out at a position of our biggest strength, which is our DL. Having 4 probowl linemen is great, I but I could live with just 3.

It's gonna take more than that to get the cap room.

[Mr. Miyagi]

It's gonna take more than that to get the cap room.

I don't disagree, but that's a big chunk right there. Then we start thinning out at other places too, get Mario to restructure, cut Cassel, etc. Play some games with the contracts and convert some cap hit into bonuses. I'm no capologist but Pegulas have the cash and they'll figure this out.

Just imagine, Op, if we got Russell Wilson at QB and our D goes from top 3 to top 10, wouldn't you take that twice on Sundays? What would you have left to complain about then??

[Victor7]

With our current team he might be worth some good players and/ or picks package.

Our defense is stellar and ready to compete with the best. I would gladly give up a nice combo. But it would have to be non disruptive to our defense otherwise it kinda beats the point of winning with defense and a non elite QB.

If we had a "regular" team per say I wouldn't really give much up for him. He's not that good to be honest. He's just in a very good situation over there with that defense and beast mode running all over everyone who dares step in front of him.

[The last buffalo fan]

I don't disagree, but that's a big chunk right there. Then we start thinning out at other places too, get Mario to restructure, cut Cassel, etc. Play some games with the contracts and convert some cap hit into bonuses. I'm no capologist but Pegulas have the cash and they'll figure this out.

Just imagine, Op, if we got Russell Wilson at QB and our D goes from top 3 to top 10, wouldn't you take that twice on Sundays? What would you have left to complain about then??

Me:

Op: He will complain about it, billieve me!

[IlluminatusUIUC]

If they are dealing Wilson for cap reasons (they won't be, this is just fan dreaming) they are not taking on a big salary player in return. Sending them Dareus in return makes no sense from their perspective. If they got any players at all in the deal, they would be rookie capped guys like Watkins.

[Mr. Miyagi]

If they are dealing Wilson for cap reasons (they won't be, this is just fan dreaming) they are not taking on a big salary player in return. Sending them Dareus in return makes no sense from their perspective. If they got any players at all in the deal, they would be rookie capped guys like Watkins.

Without Wilson they would have no use for a WR.