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    Re: QB is already known at OBD!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Lecter View Post
    Based on what?

    If they knew Cassel was going to start he would be working almost extensively with the first unit and the other two would get little or no time.
    I know it's important as the mod to be right....

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    Re: QB is already known at OBD!!

    EJ will go down as one of the Bills worst 1st rd. picks ever, and that is saying something.

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    Re: QB is already known at OBD!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Lecter View Post
    Based on what?

    If they knew Cassel was going to start he would be working almost extensively with the first unit and the other two would get little or no time.

    I know being right on a message board is important stuff - but you're not right here. Certainly Cassel might end up starting. But they don't know that now
    Ahhh.. Logic... Almost didn't recognize it.

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    Re: QB is already known at OBD!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Lecter View Post
    Based on what?

    If they knew Cassel was going to start he would be working almost extensively with the first unit and the other two would get little or no time.

    I know being right on a message board is important stuff - but you're not right here. Certainly Cassel might end up starting. But they don't know that now
    And they said that from the beginning. It's going on every day. One day one guy does well, another poorly. Next day vice versa. We'll know week one, but things seem to be going the way of Cassel getting those reps if this continues:

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    #Bills QB rep count in team drills today:
    Cassel: 29
    Taylor: 23
    Manuel: 18
    Quarterback update
    Matt Cassel was the primary #1 QB and it wasn’t close as far as reps. He got almost all of the 11-on-11 snaps with the first team, although Tyrod Taylor took a few. EJ Manuel had one snap in that scenario. Manuel was with the third team most of practice, with Taylor the #2 QB, but both QBs took some second-team reps.
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    Re: QB is already known at OBD!!

    Quote Originally Posted by k-oneputt View Post
    EJ will go down as one of the Bills worst 1st rd. picks ever, and that is saying something.
    Nonsense.

    In the first place, the Bills traded down & picked up Kiko before drafting EJ.

    For that reason alone, EJ was nowhere near one of the worst first rnd picks by the Bills.

    And there are DOZENS of first rnd picks worse than EJ even if he gets cut this year.

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    Re: QB is already known at OBD!!

    Quote Originally Posted by better days View Post
    Nonsense.

    In the first place, the Bills traded down & picked up Kiko before drafting EJ.

    For that reason alone, EJ was nowhere near one of the worst first rnd picks by the Bills.
    Uhm .... What ?

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    Re: QB is already known at OBD!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Victor7 View Post
    Uhm .... What ?
    No sense in even trying.

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    Re: QB is already known at OBD!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Victor7 View Post
    Uhm .... What ?
    Looks like a number of people on this board can't read.

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    16th pick two years ago, and he is on the step of being out of the league altogether ????

    That's a bad pick.

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    Re: QB is already known at OBD!!

    Quote Originally Posted by k-oneputt View Post
    16th pick two years ago, and he is on the step of being out of the league altogether ????

    That's a bad pick.
    EJ may prove to be a bad pick.

    But no way in Hell is he one of the worst picks in Bills History.

    And anyone that thinks he is obviously has no knowledge of the Bills draft history.
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    Re: QB is already known at OBD!!

    Quote Originally Posted by k-oneputt View Post
    EJ will go down as one of the Bills worst 1st rd. picks ever, and that is saying something.
    Nah, that is to harsh. In 2013 Moron needed a QB and so he got the best one of a bad lot. EJ is pathetically mediocre. Unlike JP Lossman who still makes my head hurts and was gotten in such a way that it screwed us over big time in future drafts, plus there were better QBs and other position players available at the time.

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    Re: QB is already known at OBD!!

    Quote Originally Posted by better days View Post
    EJ may prove to be a bad pick.

    But no way in Hell is he one of the worst picks in Bills History.

    And anyone that thinks he is obviously has no knowledge of the Bills draft history.
    A 1st round QB bust sets the team back like no other bust at a different position. So, yes, no matter how bad the Bills drafted at other positions, since the Bills have only drafted 4 QB in the 1st round and 3 of them have failed, EJ is among the worst picks in Bills history, joining JP Losman and to a lesser extent Richie Lucas as one of the worst picks in Bills' history.

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    Sorry but I gotta go with Mike Williams or Aaron Maybin as worst ever.

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    Re: QB is already known at OBD!!

    Quote Originally Posted by better days View Post
    Looks like a number of people on this board can't read.
    More like you can't write or comprehend yourself

    Kiko was a 2nd round pick. He went after EJ (1st round pick 16) and after Robert Woods (2nd round pick 41) I have no idea what you meant.

    I am truly baffled at your post.

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    Re: QB is already known at OBD!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Albany,n.y. View Post
    A 1st round QB bust sets the team back like no other bust at a different position. So, yes, no matter how bad the Bills drafted at other positions, since the Bills have only drafted 4 QB in the 1st round and 3 of them have failed, EJ is among the worst picks in Bills history, joining JP Losman and to a lesser extent Richie Lucas as one of the worst picks in Bills' history.
    Well, I totally disagree. The vast majority of Bills fans would have been happy if the Bills drafted Kiko at #9.

    Instead, the Bills got BOTH Kiko & EJ with that #9 pick.

    For that reason, it is incredibly stupid IMO to consider EJ one of the worst picks even if he does not pan out.

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    Re: QB is already known at OBD!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Victor7 View Post
    More like you can't write or comprehend yourself

    Kiko was a 2nd round pick. He went after EJ (1st round pick 16) and after Robert Woods (2nd round pick 41) I have no idea what you meant.

    I am truly baffled at your post.
    The Bills got Kiko with the pick they got from trading down.

    They did not use the #9 pick on EJ, they traded DOWN & got BOTH EJ & Kiko for the price of that #9 pick.

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    Re: QB is already known at OBD!!

    Quote Originally Posted by better days View Post
    The Bills got Kiko with the pick they got from trading down.

    They did not use the #9 pick on EJ, they traded DOWN & got BOTH EJ & Kiko for the price of that #9 pick.
    I get it.

    If BetterDays ate a shiit sandwich he would argue that the bread is pretty delicious, thus the sandwich isn't that shiiity and because of the bread it's no longer a Shiiit sandwich.

    You may be ok with a shiiiity sandwich or a busted pick @16 but the majority of bills fans would prefer a do over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tomz View Post
    Sorry but I gotta go with Mike Williams or Aaron Maybin as worst ever.
    No love for Erik Flowers?

    Seriously though Losman is the worst pick I can remember for this team just because they gave up multiple picks to acquire him and he turned out to be hot garbage. They ended up giving up the 20th choice in the 2005 NFL draft and guess who went 24th that year? Aaron Rodgers. That's not to say that Buffalo would have selected him but they were in the replace Drew Bledsoe idea and it could have happened.

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    Re: QB is already known at OBD!!

    Quote Originally Posted by HHURRICANE View Post
    Obviously the Bills haven't come out and announced the starter but they already know who it is.

    After reporters tried to dump praise on EJ after the conclusion of OTA's Rex almost scoffed and said the film tells the tail of what they are trying to accomplish.

    Kyle Williams was on Sirius and basically excused Cassel's performance and said the defense was instructed to "throw everything at the offense" in support of the hosts contention that Cassel would be the starter.

    Roman and Ryan eluded in the spring that the starter would be known when camp started. Our season starts in 45 days. There is no competition. This comes down to who can run the offense and that's the vet.

    Ryan wants to win and with the exception of Fred Jackson's praise for EJ he's on an island.

    Matt Cassel is this starter.
    Cassel will be the starter but you will see a lot of Tyrod too. I think Roman is gameplanning for both QBs. Even plays with both QBs on the field.
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    Re: QB is already known at OBD!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Pink View Post
    No love for Erik Flowers?

    Seriously though Losman is the worst pick I can remember for this team just because they gave up multiple picks to acquire him and he turned out to be hot garbage. They ended up giving up the 20th choice in the 2005 NFL draft and guess who went 24th that year? Aaron Rodgers. That's not to say that Buffalo would have selected him but they were in the replace Drew Bledsoe idea and it could have happened.
    So many bust to pick from. It's hard to say EJ would be top 5. The whole JP/Rodgers thing always burns me. The Bills always seem to pick the wrong drafts to force a QB pick when the is none left to pick.

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