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    Re: Harvin asks for shot at playing CB

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Miyagi View Post
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    The most famous player I can think of is Deion Sanders who played both CB & WR.

    And of course Deion also played major league baseball.

    IMO, the best athlete to ever play in the NFL.
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    Re: Harvin asks for shot at playing CB

    Quote Originally Posted by YardRat View Post
    Apparently he took a couple of snaps at corner yesterday?
    Yeah he did, thats why Rex was even asked about it in the first place. Not like anything that happens on the first day of camp with no pads means anything

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    Re: Harvin asks for shot at playing CB

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    IMO, the best athlete to ever play in the NFL.
    I think Bo Jackson is the best athlete I've ever seen play. Deion is definitely in the discussion, along with Rod Woodson. They say Jim Brown should be as well, but I didn't see him play during his career.

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    Re: Harvin asks for shot at playing CB

    Quote Originally Posted by MillsapsBillsFan View Post
    Yeah he did, thats why Rex was even asked about it in the first place. Not like anything that happens on the first day of camp with no pads means anything
    He could be building depth, in case of emergency. McKelvin had a setback and might be out a while, and they have a rookie taking starting snaps at CB. Graham having the ability to play both S & CB helps, but they need him at S. If there are injuries, Harvin might help them get through a crisis, the same reason both Brown & Edelman ended up playing CB.

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    Re: Harvin asks for shot at playing CB

    Quote Originally Posted by GingerP View Post
    I think Bo Jackson is the best athlete I've ever seen play. Deion is definitely in the discussion, along with Rod Woodson. They say Jim Brown should be as well, but I didn't see him play during his career.
    In terms of raw athletic potential, Bo might be the best American athlete of all time.

    For the moment, it looks like JJ Watt might play himself into the discussion.


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    Re: Harvin asks for shot at playing CB

    Quote Originally Posted by GingerP View Post
    He could be building depth, in case of emergency. McKelvin had a setback and might be out a while, and they have a rookie taking starting snaps at CB. Graham having the ability to play both S & CB helps, but they need him at S. If there are injuries, Harvin might help them get through a crisis, the same reason both Brown & Edelman ended up playing CB.
    McKelvin out and Graham to safety still leaves us with Brooks, Cockrell, and Robey among guys who have taken NFL snaps at DB. Run through them before we have to turn to a 27 year old, the most expensive wideout on the team, to play a position he hasn't done for 10 years.

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    Re: Harvin asks for shot at playing CB

    Quote Originally Posted by Yasgur's Farm View Post
    Pats had a player that played both positions a few yeas ago.
    Troy Brown, he was the ultimate gadget player and Both Parcels and Belichek loved him to death. he stepped in and played nickelback on their first superbowl run when one of their CBs went down, and even split time at both nickelback and wr. he played both against the Rams, and did this while being the main punt returner for years with the pats. he was also a probowl wr... so yeah. the pats had someone like this, and they used him all over the field wherever they needed him.

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    It was Troy Brown, and it was over a decade ago.
    I should have kept reading the thread. beat me to it.

    anyway Randy Moss did it for the Pats too.
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    Re: Harvin asks for shot at playing CB

    Quote Originally Posted by Ingtar33 View Post
    anyway Randy Moss did it for the Pats too.
    A lot of the huge NFL wideouts will play DB in hail mary situations, but I can never remember Moss playing any real defense.

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    Re: Harvin asks for shot at playing CB

    Quote Originally Posted by IlluminatusUIUC View Post
    A lot of the huge NFL wideouts will play DB in hail mary situations, but I can never remember Moss playing any real defense.
    he used to practice for the pats on defense... and you're right it was always for a Hail Mary situation. for all we know that's all Harvin wants to do. As far as i'm concerned if a player wan't to learn a new "trick" i'm all for it as long as it doesn't hurt his work at his main position

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    Re: Harvin asks for shot at playing CB

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    he used to practice for the pats on defense... and you're right it was always for a Hail Mary situation. for all we know that's all Harvin wants to do. As far as i'm concerned if a player wan't to learn a new "trick" i'm all for it as long as it doesn't hurt his work at his main position
    He'd be horrible for that role, he's 5'11. The idea with putting someone like Moss, Green, or Johnson back there is that they are big enough to jump with the opposing team's best receiver.

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    If I were an immensely talented athlete and I played on a football team that had a full-on dumpster fire for a QB depth chart, I'd be looking at creative ways to increase my value, too.

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    Re: Harvin asks for shot at playing CB

    Quote Originally Posted by GingerP View Post
    I think Bo Jackson is the best athlete I've ever seen play. Deion is definitely in the discussion, along with Rod Woodson. They say Jim Brown should be as well, but I didn't see him play during his career.
    Deion Sanders had a MUCH better career in both the NFL & major league baseball than Bo Jackson.

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    Re: Harvin asks for shot at playing CB

    Quote Originally Posted by better days View Post
    Deion Sanders had a MUCH better career in both the NFL & major league baseball than Bo Jackson.
    You never said who had the better career, just who is the best athlete. Jackson had a much shorter career, because of injury.

    At any rate, Jackson was the far superior baseball player, becoming an All-Star (something Sanders never accomplished). He was a part-time football player, but still was a eye-popping player. He never played more than 10 games in his 4 seasons, being named to the Pro Bowl in 1990. He is the only major athlete to be named All-Pro in 2 major sports (not Sanders).

    But really, it is about who is the best athlete. Bo was just as fast (if not faster) and weighed 35 lbs. more (much bigger and stronger). Both ran college track, but Bo qualified for the nationals in the 100-meter (10.39), something Sanders did not do.

    Gil Brandt, the godfather of the NFL draft, called Bo Jackson the best NFL athlete ever, ahead of Sanders. His exact quote was: "The other four guys on this list are extraordinary, but Jackson is far and away above them, a truly special athlete."

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    Re: Harvin asks for shot at playing CB

    Quote Originally Posted by GingerP View Post
    You never said who had the better career, just who is the best athlete. Jackson had a much shorter career, because of injury.

    At any rate, Jackson was the far superior baseball player, becoming an All-Star (something Sanders never accomplished). He was a part-time football player, but still was a eye-popping player. He never played more than 10 games in his 4 seasons, being named to the Pro Bowl in 1990. He is the only major athlete to be named All-Pro in 2 major sports (not Sanders).

    But really, it is about who is the best athlete. Bo was just as fast (if not faster) and weighed 35 lbs. more (much bigger and stronger). Both ran college track, but Bo qualified for the nationals in the 100-meter (10.39), something Sanders did not do.

    Gil Brandt, the godfather of the NFL draft, called Bo Jackson the best NFL athlete ever, ahead of Sanders. His exact quote was: "The other four guys on this list are extraordinary, but Jackson is far and away above them, a truly special athlete."

    http://www.nfl.com/photoessays/0ap3000000483888
    Sanders is an NFL HOF player, something Jackson is not.

    I agree, his injuries affected Bo, but injuries are a fact of life.

    And Deion was an IRON MAN, played a LONG time without any real injury.

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    sounds like percy is taking charles haleys good advice
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    Re: Harvin asks for shot at playing CB

    Quote Originally Posted by better days View Post
    Sanders is an NFL HOF player, something Jackson is not.

    I agree, his injuries affected Bo, but injuries are a fact of life.

    And Deion was an IRON MAN, played a LONG time without any real injury.
    You are changing the subject. You said Sanders was "best athlete to ever play in the NFL." You didn't say he had the best career.

    I merely pointed out that Jackson was the superior athlete. You don't have to take my word for it, you can ask Gil Brandt.

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    Re: Harvin asks for shot at playing CB

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    Sanders is an NFL HOF player, something Jackson is not.

    I agree, his injuries affected Bo, but injuries are a fact of life.

    And Deion was an IRON MAN, played a LONG time without any real injury.
    Deion didn't suffer many injuries because he was notoriously reticent to tackle anybody. He was indeed a HOF cover corner, but you can't hold up his longevity as a virtue over Jackson when the latter was bulldozing people for a living.

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    Re: Harvin asks for shot at playing CB

    Quote Originally Posted by GingerP View Post
    You are changing the subject. You said Sanders was "best athlete to ever play in the NFL." You didn't say he had the best career.

    I merely pointed out that Jackson was the superior athlete. You don't have to take my word for it, you can ask Gil Brandt.
    I said IMO which means In my opinion.

    And Jackson was NOT the superior athlete AFTER he was injured as evidenced by the careers of BOTH.

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    Deion didn't suffer many injuries because he was notoriously reticent to tackle anybody. He was indeed a HOF cover corner, but you can't hold up his longevity as a virtue over Jackson when the latter was bulldozing people for a living.
    Deion did not need to make tackles, NOBODY caught the ball on him.

    And Bo was not exactly a bulldozer type of back like Jerome Bettis.

    And yes, Bo was injured & not the same after that injury.

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    Re: Harvin asks for shot at playing CB

    Quote Originally Posted by better days View Post
    Deion did not need to make tackles, NOBODY caught the ball on him.
    Running backs would come to his side of the field, which was easy to do as they'd face little resistance there.

    And Bo was not exactly a bulldozer type of back like Jerome Bettis.
    He didn't need to be because he was fast enough to avoid a lot of contact. But he lowered his head and absolutely destroyed people when he had to. Watch his videos again.

    And yes, Bo was injured & not the same after that injury.
    Yes, but before the injury he was the best athlete in NFL history. Gale Sayers was up there too. It happens.

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