Let's put it to a vote who do you want starting for the Bills Week 1 against Indy.
Let's put it to a vote who do you want starting for the Bills Week 1 against Indy.
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"Well," said Coach, "you never were really ON the team. You made that uniform you're wearing out of rags and towels, and your helmet is a toy space helmet.
You show up at practice and then either steal the ball and make us chase you to get it back, or you try to tackle people at inappropriate times."
It was all true what he was saying. And yet, I thought something is brewing inside the head of this Coach.
He sees something in me, some kind of raw talent that he can mold. But that's when I felt the handcuffs go on.
BillsImpossible (08-22-2015)
I am fine with Cassell or Taylor but I think Taylor creates more of a challenge on defense so I'd give him the edge.
BillsImpossible (08-22-2015)
I thought I was going to go with Cassel as well, but I really am getting sold on Tyrod's skill set and ability to make plays with his legs. Just makes me nervous when he is running all over the place. I keep picturing Manuel's injury last year in Cleveland. But I think Cassel/EJ make great backups just in case he does get hurt.
I'm all aboard the Tyrod Train!
BillsImpossible (08-22-2015),ublinkwescore (08-21-2015)
Cassel's lack of playing last night tells me that Tyrod had to win the job last night. Not sure he did that. Coaches have to be leaning towards the vet and so am I.
Buffalogic (08-21-2015),Victor7 (08-21-2015)
It's not " my starting QB " since my internet verbiage means nothing. It's really up to Roman and Rex.
With Taylor, the read option is part of the playbook. Roman wants that.
The OL looked good in run blocking but a bit suspect in pass blocking, at present. Another reason for Taylor.
I do believe entering the Cleveland game the Bills were comfortable with what Cassel could do in his limited way and knew they could always fall back on him. Thus, his vacation for the night.
At camp, I saw Taylor deliver the ball to the receivers better than the other 2. Little has changed after 2 pre-season games.
The Bills seem to want a young Vick/Russel Wilson type with mobility. Taylor again.
better days (08-21-2015),BillsImpossible (08-21-2015),HHURRICANE (08-22-2015),ublinkwescore (08-21-2015)
Still a ways to go before I throw my weight behind a particular QB yet.
But I gotta admit, Tyrod Taylor threw some lasers last night. His two passes to Deonte Thompson and one pass to Charles Clay and all were things of beauty. And EJ Manuel, god bless the kid, actually looked good. Like he wants to make this QB decision as hard as possible on ol' Rex.
I also love the way Greg Roman is mixing in the QB option and play action to keep D's on their toes. Taylor really runs those plays well.
I know a guy like Taylor can be figured out pretty quickly over the course of the regular season (most DC's just shadow an LB on them to contain them in the pocket), but Taylor did enough with his arm to show that maybe -- MAYBE -- he can be a solid passer, not just a archetypal running QB that can't do much else.
My impression of last night was an exceptionally positive one.
And almost never say that about a preseason game.
Last edited by JoeMama; 08-21-2015 at 07:02 AM.
Disclaimer: The sentiment expressed in this post is strictly for entertainment purposes only.
better days (08-21-2015),BillsImpossible (08-22-2015),Famous Amos (08-22-2015),ublinkwescore (08-21-2015)
what would have sold you on tyrod? i think Td's would have been nice, but he made a TD type throw that could have been fought for harder. i saw rythm for the offense and it didn't look tentative. it looked fairly decisive. in a second preseason game for a guy who doesn't have starts, that's pretty good.Originally Posted by HHURRICANE
that being said, i wouldnt be crushed if cassel was named the starter, but i think Tyrod has a lot more upside and make the bills offense a lot more dynamic.
better days (08-21-2015),BillsImpossible (08-22-2015)
my mom and my great aunt were playing wr and rb last night and ty STILL looked amazing
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BillsImpossible (08-22-2015),ublinkwescore (08-21-2015)
You should have another choice...."none of the above".
In an ideal world we'd have a better option.
In the real world, who are we going to get in the next 3 weeks that would be better than any of those 3?
HHURRICANE (08-22-2015),notacon (08-21-2015)
Taylor and it's not close. You want to run the living snot out of the ball? Tyrod is the obvious choice. He gives the team another dimension in the running game, and he's accurate enough in the passing game to do well off of play action.
BillsImpossible (08-21-2015),ublinkwescore (08-21-2015)
I voted for EJ because so far he is the only QB to put points on the board & he did that in both games.
But Tyrod is electric as I said before & I would be happy if he is named the starter as well.
If Rex & Roman want to play it safe, Cassel will be named the starter & I can live with that, but he is the most boring, least dynamic of all the Bills QB's.
djjimkelly (08-21-2015),Yasgur's Farm (08-21-2015)
Why I voted for EJ...
QB Box Score through scrimmage and 2nd preseason game...
Manuel - 18/33 - 292 yds - 8.85 yds/a - 3 td's - 0 int's - 117.23 pr
Taylor - 20/31 - 191 yds - 6.16 yds/a - 0 td's - 0 int's - 81.52 pr
Cassel - 9/14 - 72 yds - 5.14 yds/a - 0 td's - 0 int's - 77.08 pr
That's not just a small difference!
Last edited by Yasgur's Farm; 08-21-2015 at 08:19 AM.
better days (08-21-2015),djjimkelly (08-21-2015)
Some people are struggling here to hate T Mobile.
All the cliches are getting thrown around with a complete disregard with the fact that there isn't a single QB in the league who could turn an offense with zero starting RBs and WRs into a jaw dropping performance.
BillsImpossible (08-21-2015),Slick (08-23-2015),ublinkwescore (08-21-2015)
3 points and an 81 passer rating in a preseason game against Cleveland is "jaw-dropping" now?
djjimkelly (08-21-2015),swiper (08-21-2015),Victor7 (08-21-2015)
and i too voted for EJ.
1 simple reason he is built to play qb for the bills.
he is 6-8 with coach moron as his coach i say he is an over 500 qb with roman and rex and this D
he also has the best arm
Lone Stranger (08-21-2015),Yasgur's Farm (08-21-2015)
First off, I didn't say it was jaw dropping.
Second, you didn't watch the game so you don't get to comment because you don't understand the context of those stats.
If you watched the game, you'd know he looked decent especially given the fact he had zero starting WRs and QBs. How people keep ignoring this is beyond me.
Look, if you are having trouble, just google Tyrod Taylor and you'll see that all the news is positive. That doesn't mean anything major, but clearly everything is leaning positive in the media.
Last edited by BuffaloRedleg; 08-21-2015 at 09:17 AM.
BillsImpossible (08-21-2015),ublinkwescore (08-21-2015)
Who were those QBs playing with and against when those stats were compiled? Ones, twos or threes? And why is it that EJ has been getting almost all of his time with the threes? Does the coaching staff hate him? Is it a conspiracy to thwart the progress of a former first round pick? You're leaving out a HUGE piece of information. The raw numbers without any context are meaningless.
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BillsImpossible (08-21-2015),Mr. Cynical (08-23-2015),ublinkwescore (08-21-2015)
tyrod had a bunch of 3rd stringers at RB and WR to throw to, the onlything first string about the lineup last night was the offensive line, and the browns DL ate them for lunch. Tyrod was pressured mercilessly all night, rarely had a pocket, and kept making one smart football play after another in the face of that pressure. He threw into the blitz, he scrambled out of pressure, and hit men on the run, he completed a very high number of passes to covered WRs by fitting it into tight windows, and when he ran i think he was averaging 10 yards a carry.
I would have liked some more points out of the starting unit too, but that was hardly the bills starting offense. that was 6-7 starters and 5-6 scrubs vs the browns starting defense minus 1 CB. and we pretty much played ball control, smash mouth football. it looked rather good to me. The worst play of the night for Taylor was on 3rd down in the red zone, when he took the lone sack he gave up all night. it made what would have been an easy FG into a moderately difficult one.
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BillsImpossible (08-21-2015)
I'd like to see if EJ has made any progress against 1st team Ds by playing him in Game 3, but if I had to pick a starter now it is hard not to say Taylor.
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