Saturday morning's practice... interesting comments about QB's

[Bill Cody]

No he didn't. It's more typical Bills Cody uninterpretable gibberish that makes no sense. It's just code for his being an EJ lover. Because he isn't too smart.

Not as smart as you of course. It's kind of you to duck out of your Mensa meeting to share your piercing intellect with us, always a pleasure.

[JoeMama]

try decaf bro. That's closer than we've been to the playoffs since including your boy Orton who is not even average. Fitz is better. Orton's funeral will symbolize his career, 5 pallbearers on each side. Orton goes drinking with mark Sanchez and they argue about who is more mediocre. Nobody's saying anything about great, that's all in that overheated empty tunnel you call a brain. And yeah Bledsoe is better than Losman, all day every day and those were our choices. So if you were on the other side of that argument I would put your football IQ at zero. You talk about Bledsoe sucking in Dallas. Where did Losman go? The Food Lion? And the guy was a dick, reminds me a lot of your posts.

Ok be a Bledsoe homer.

That makes you look bad.

Not me.

And yes, I am dick. Especially when dealing with morons. Deal with it.

BTW if EJ put up the numbers Orton did last year you'd be jizzing all over the place and lauding him as the best QB since Flutie.

[JoeMama]

Let me dumb my argument down for the sake of the EJ fans, who have a hard time understanding much of anything.

If EJ played last year and put up these numbers:

64.2% comp rate
3018 yards passing
18 TDs
10 INTS
QBR 87.8
7-5 record

I would 100% be behind him as our starting QB this year.

[Yasgur's Farm]

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All contributing parties should consider this FAIR warning.

[JoeMama]

Also I would like to point out that I started this thread under the pretense I thought EJ was doing a good job recently and deserves a roster spot.

Somehow, that wasn't good enough.

Apparently you have to crown him king of the universe or else you're an EJ hater.

Amazing stuff. Truly.

[Meathead]

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All contributing parties should consider this FAIR warning.

i agree with the ignorant slut

[Mace]

Also I would like to point out that I started this thread under the pretense I thought EJ was doing a good job recently and deserves a roster spot.

Somehow, that wasn't good enough.

Apparently you have to crown him king of the universe or else you're an EJ hater.

Amazing stuff. Truly.

Same with any of the QB's, Mama, or much of anything. The world has shifted to black and white, no shades of gray.

[Bill Cody]

Ok be a Bledsoe homer.

That makes you look bad.

Not me.

And yes, I am dick. Especially when dealing with morons. Deal with it.

BTW if EJ put up the numbers Orton did last year you'd be jizzing all over the place and lauding him as the best QB since Flutie.

what did you like best about Losman? Was it the way the way the wind carried his flowing locks? Because he was very bad at his job, you know, the QB thing? You're calling me a moron because I recognize the painfully obvious, that Losman was an abject failure? But you can't? That's not my problem bud it's yours. Deal with it.

[Bill Cody]

Let me dumb my argument down for the sake of the EJ fans, who have a hard time understanding much of anything.

If EJ played last year and put up these numbers:

64.2% comp rate
3018 yards passing
18 TDs
10 INTS
QBR 87.8
7-5 record

I would 100% be behind him as our starting QB this year.

That would be unlikely. But irrevelant if he did play and his last 4 or 5 games were at that pace. Because those numbers from Orton got us exactly what? No playoffs. Orton retired. And EJ still an inexperienced question mark. Yeah sign me up for THAT.

[Bill Cody]

Apparently you have to crown him king of the universe or else you're an EJ hater.

Amazing stuff. Truly.

You're very good at battling straw men. Pure fiction.

[JoeMama]

You're very good at battling straw men. Pure fiction.

Not when EJ fans are throwing fits even though I literally said he's made enough strides to deserve a roster spot.

You guys are a weird bunch.

But that's not EJ's fault, which is why I still like the kid and will continue to root for development if he's up for the task.

[JoeMama]

That would be unlikely. But irrevelant if he did play and his last 4 or 5 games were at that pace. Because those numbers from Orton got us exactly what? No playoffs. Orton retired. And EJ still an inexperienced question mark. Yeah sign me up for THAT.

I call bull****.

You'd be elated if EJ improved his comp %, TD/INT, and yards per game on par with Kyle Orton last year.

You can lie to other people, but I've got a really sharp bull**** radar.

So no, thanks for playing.

[JoeMama]

what did you like best about Losman? Was it the way the way the wind carried his flowing locks? Because he was very bad at his job, you know, the QB thing? You're calling me a moron because I recognize the painfully obvious, that Losman was an abject failure? But you can't? That's not my problem bud it's yours. Deal with it.

Of course I think Losman was a failure. WTF are you even talking about now? This is so off topic.

Blame OBD if you don't like that Bledsoe was let go in order to hand the starting job to JP.

Not me.

Totally misdirected rant.

[sukie]

I simply do not want cassel starting. It's a clear rung below Orton and 2 below Fitz.

Run with taylor or ej. OBD can yank either of them week 5 to satisfy everyone and cassel can go 6-6 THEN RETIRE.

Next season maybe Matt Moore will be available for our collective wanderlust for safe and steady QB play instead of developing talent.

[Mike]

oh my. so getting your 2nd year pro playing time in a non playoff season has anything to do with my pride lol

im sure whaley and rex would love 12 more gameflims of EJ

yes maybe EJ is the 3 qb right now i dont know but last year from this franchises perspective he was the better option i cant believe some cant see that

and i think all 3 start this year at some point with cassel having the least starts

So your willing to tank a season for EJ Manual but not for Andrew Luck?

[Mike]

everyone is missing my point.

marrone knew we werent making the playoffs even at 2-2. yes maybe orton ran a better O then EJ last year. BUT the kid needed playing time to grow. sometimes in order to develop a qb u put his needs above the franchises. and trust me orton and EJ were about the same. (maybe people forgetting his 8.2 40 speed on some plays last year) its a rare guy that i know id beat in a 100 yard dash who is in the nfl

im sure manning or aikman in year 1 could have been replaced to get 1 or 3 extra wins on the year but it wasnt done so they learn.

SO........ thats why i believe benching manuel was asinine last year.

Before the Lakers drafted Kobe, their GM watching him tryout and after 5 minutes got up and walked away.

He knew right away that Kobe was special and traded to draft him.


In a very similar way, many scouts, GMs, coaches & fans knew right away that Luck was lights out, that Wilson had that it factor (heck he started as a rookie after Seahawks traded for & paid top dollar for QB)

Similarly, it also takes 5 minutes to note that EJ Manual can't hit the broad side of a barn.


The eyes don't lie to you. Just watch him play, how he reads a defense, how he throws the ball, his mechanics, fluidity, mastery of the game. EJ Manual does Not have it and never will. It's painfully clear and it's always been clear. Forget last season, 1,000 games won't help him!

[Mike]

To the EJ homers,

Doesn't it speak volumes that EJ couldn't beat out Kyle Orton, a career journeyman who joined the team late?

And now EJ can't beat out another journeyman in Cassel and a guy who hasn't started a single NFL game.

Common, your 1st round QB -in his 3rd year- should at least be able to hold onto his job vs 2 nobodies!

[swiper]

I simply do not want cassel starting. It's a clear rung below Orton and 2 below Fitz.
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I simply do want Cassel starting. He's 2 rungs above both Cassel and Fitz. Got to watch Fitz play for the Jets already. Just wait. It won't be too long before Brandon Marshall is bemoaning the the fact Fitz can't throw beyond ten yards. I don't want to see the throwing RB (Taylor) or the inept one (Manuel) playing at all. And the Bills have had at least 2 shots at Matt Moore in past years. Now he's beyond his use-by date. While I gladly would have taken him in 2007, I want nothing to do with him now. If the Bills go get a QB to start his name should be Zach Mettenberger. Until then, Cassel is the only pro on the roster.

[senseofdoom]

Best thing that could have happened to Manuel was to get benched. Watching Orton play or lead an offense, interact with coaches in meetings and/or see him in studying film is what Manuel needed from the see to get better. Unfortunately this should have been the plan from the get go.

For the record, that was the plan going in. Everyone knew he was a project and would need some time on the bench before he'd be ready to play.

It was Kolb's career ending slip on a wet rubber mat that forced Manuel into the starting job.

[Bill Cody]

Not when EJ fans are throwing fits even though I literally said he's made enough strides to deserve a roster spot.

You guys are a weird bunch.

But that's not EJ's fault, which is why I still like the kid and will continue to root for development if he's up for the task.

I'm not part of any "bunch". You thread got some push back for labeling EJ fans as "obnoxious". I'll let the folks that have read this stupid thread judge whether you should be calling anyone obnoxious.