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    Re: EJ gets start vs Pittsburgh

    Quote Originally Posted by djjimkelly View Post
    dont delete your account lol

    and listen 0 % is semi laughable.

    i refuse to believe the coaches organization arent sincere in this decision. and if the opposite is the case like your suggesting then our franchised is more doomed then ever.(doubt that is the case)

    this being said i dont care who starts week 1 .......... JUST WIN
    Agreed ... I do not care who starts as long as they win enough games to get us in the playoffs. I am so tired of saying, "theres always next year"! Eff next year, I want this year.

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    Re: EJ gets start vs Pittsburgh

    It's simple guys. Rex wants Tyrod, the rest offensive coaches want Cassel. So EJ is the compromise.

    Seriously there should not be any doubt that EJ has improved. Maybe they want to see if the improvement carries over to real game like scenario - the Steelers are going to play 1st string the entire first half.

    Personally I like what I saw from Tyrod, the more "it" factor in the pocket. But it's just me that I value a guy having football sense (where the play is, the sense of pressure etc.) more than any measurables.

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    Re: EJ gets start vs Pittsburgh

    Quote Originally Posted by ghz in pittsburgh View Post
    It's simple guys. Rex wants Tyrod, the rest offensive coaches want Cassel. So EJ is the compromise.

    Seriously there should not be any doubt that EJ has improved. Maybe they want to see if the improvement carries over to real game like scenario - the Steelers are going to play 1st string the entire first half.

    Personally I like what I saw from Tyrod, the more "it" factor in the pocket. But it's just me that I value a guy having football sense (where the play is, the sense of pressure etc.) more than any measurables.
    Have you watched the same preseason I've watched? Tyrod has basically been a 1 read and throw guy and if not open than run. Rarely have I seen him scan the field and many have his throws that he's completed have been dump offs to running backs and why his yards per completion is so low. Heck if Goodwin doesn't make a great run after catch against Carolina it be far worse.

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    I admit I only saw one game, that is the Cleveland game. I was impressed. Especially 3rd down conversions.

    I did, however, mentioned that he would have trouble scoring TD in the redzone. To me he's not built to throw darts in the middle, which is critical in the redzone.

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    Re: EJ gets start vs Pittsburgh

    Quote Originally Posted by The Jokeman View Post
    Have you watched the same preseason I've watched? Tyrod has basically been a 1 read and throw guy and if not open than run. Rarely have I seen him scan the field and many have his throws that he's completed have been dump offs to running backs and why his yards per completion is so low. Heck if Goodwin doesn't make a great run after catch against Carolina it be far worse.
    shhh dont put down the shiiny new toy. the kids all still love it.

    that being said if its tyrod eventually with the nod ill support him, same with cassel but ill curse cassel hard at the first mistake i dont see too much upside to cassel

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    Re: EJ gets start vs Pittsburgh

    Still for Bills offense, 1st team really means 1st team offensive line. top WR/TE/RB are all out. If they play 3 quarters, each QB gets one quarter as Rex said each QB will get 1st team reps. I'd throw caution to Rex - the Steelers had to sign Legursky after Pouncey hurt in last preseason game, out of season. I shudder to think any of Bills starting 5 gets hurt.

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    Re: EJ gets start vs Pittsburgh

    Quote Originally Posted by djjimkelly View Post
    shhh dont put down the shiiny new toy. the kids all still love it.

    that being said if its tyrod eventually with the nod ill support him, same with cassel but ill curse cassel hard at the first mistake i dont see too much upside to cassel
    I'll support him too but it doesn't mean I can't point out his flaws. I agree there is little upside in Cassel. Yet because he's the most complete passer I prefer see him starting than anyone else assuming McCoy's healthy.

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    Re: EJ gets start vs Pittsburgh

    Quote Originally Posted by ghz in pittsburgh View Post
    I admit I only saw one game, that is the Cleveland game. I was impressed. Especially 3rd down conversions.

    I did, however, mentioned that he would have trouble scoring TD in the redzone. To me he's not built to throw darts in the middle, which is critical in the redzone.
    That was in one drive against a Cleveland secondary that was missing 2 starters.

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    Re: EJ gets start vs Pittsburgh

    Whether you like or don't like EJ, it's playing out as it should without having a clear cut, head and shoulders above the rest, starter. I like the decision though I only expect him to play a couple series. This is his chance to make an impression or show something with the ones. Good luck to him.

    Then no matter who they pick, good luck to us all.

    I don't see it as a waste of a tune up game though. They don't have a "no doubts" "sure thing" starter so there's nothing to tune up besides accurate handoffs and some iffy smallball. We're just not tuning up a Peyton Manning or read-option offensive machine. We're "tuning up" a rushing offense. It makes more sense to me to keep using preseason as practice atm.

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    Re: EJ gets start vs Pittsburgh

    Smart move by Rex Ryan. Keep everyone guessing. I think Cassel will be the second QB to see the field against the Steelers.

    Ryan's main goal? Show as little from Tyrod Taylor as possible because he's going to be the starter.

    A lot of fans seem to think that EJ has not had a fair shot to win the job, so Rex is going all in on being more than fair.

    It's a swim or sink opportunity for EJ Manuel. If he's good, he stays. If he's bad, buh-bye.

    If EJ is EJ on Saturday, nobody is going to be saying he didn't get a fair shot.

    The first 2 series on offense will be critical for EJ Manuel.

    EJ just got put on the hot seat.
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    Re: EJ gets start vs Pittsburgh

    If EJ has earned it, good for him. I truly hope he does well.

    My guess in this situation is that since everyone knows the 3rd preseason game reveals your default starters, that the staff is purposefully trying to muddy the waters. But we'll see.
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    Re: EJ gets start vs Pittsburgh

    Quote Originally Posted by The Jokeman View Post
    Have you watched the same preseason I've watched? Tyrod has basically been a 1 read and throw guy and if not open than run. Rarely have I seen him scan the field and many have his throws that he's completed have been dump offs to running backs and why his yards per completion is so low. Heck if Goodwin doesn't make a great run after catch against Carolina it be far worse.
    You fail to mention the fact that the Bills are running a vanilla offense that is all of 2 pages long.

    They're asking the QB's to go out there and make simple plays.

    I think the Bills preseason goal is to show absolutely nothing besides basic plays.

    The Bills have a strategic advantage this year that is unique in the NFL, and very rare.

    Nobody knows who the quarterback will be, and no team has film on what the 2015 Buffalo Bills offense will be like once the season starts.

    Gotta' give major props to Rex Ryan for NOT being the same old coach that follows what everyone else is doing.

    By naming EJ Manuel the starting quarterback in the Bills 3rd preseason game he has effectively tossed the dress rehearsal script out of the window.

    Refreshing.

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    Re: EJ gets start vs Pittsburgh

    Quote Originally Posted by The Jokeman View Post
    That was in one drive against a Cleveland secondary that was missing 2 starters.
    Well he had the 5th and 6th WR to work with.

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    Re: EJ gets start vs Pittsburgh

    I still remember EJ said after his benching last year that he's going to let it rip if he gets the chance again. This is his chance. Starting O-Line is in place so he's going to get his time in the pocket just like he would in regular season. There is really nothing to lose, just go down fighting.

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    Re: EJ gets start vs Pittsburgh

    Quote Originally Posted by BillsImpossible View Post
    You fail to mention the fact that the Bills are running a vanilla offense that is all of 2 pages long.

    They're asking the QB's to go out there and make simple plays.

    I think the Bills preseason goal is to show absolutely nothing besides basic plays.

    The Bills have a strategic advantage this year that is unique in the NFL, and very rare.

    Nobody knows who the quarterback will be, and no team has film on what the 2015 Buffalo Bills offense will be like once the season starts.

    Gotta' give major props to Rex Ryan for NOT being the same old coach that follows what everyone else is doing.

    By naming EJ Manuel the starting quarterback in the Bills 3rd preseason game he has effectively tossed the dress rehearsal script out of the window.

    Refreshing.
    More refreshing is we finally agree on something.

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    Re: EJ gets start vs Pittsburgh

    Each QB gets a start. That completes the fair chance all 3 received and then the decision cannot be viewed as slanted towards any of the candidates. Plus it keeps everyone guessing outside the locker room. They will all be here for the Detroit game.

    I have to love all the different spins being created in this thread.

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    Re: EJ gets start vs Pittsburgh

    Quote Originally Posted by Swiper View Post
    Hopefully this will be the death knell for his career.
    great fan you are....

    anyway

    Glad for EJ, now he needs to take another step in the right direcion and produce behind the starting OL.

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    Re: EJ gets start vs Pittsburgh

    EJ's Last Stand

    This is it. Put up or shut up time.

    "He didn't have the starting offense to work with."

    Neither did Tyrod Taylor.

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    Funny how all the chirpin' went silent.

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    EJ's Last Stand

    Unless it isn't

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