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    I have a serious concern about the D

    I fear that Rex's brilliant DB driven defense might just be too much for our personnel. It's unfair to put the rookie on an island and with McKelvin out and Gilmore possibly hurt... YIKES!

    Now i know they put a lot on the guys in these games to test them in the context of a meaningless game. And I know it is not in Rex's nature to play vanilla, but i think rushing four men and dropping the rest back (ala Schwartz) is the play. Now, obviously you have to mix **** up. But i don't think we should be too exotic and i'm afraid that we're going to be. It's going to lead to big plays for the opposing offense just as often as it's going to lead to big sacks and turn-overs to our benefit.

    I believe that Rex is the ideal HC and the guy i want for this team, but i'd like for him to tamper **** down this year and play it a little vanilla on D. We can win that way. Why bet the farm?

    We have a lot to lose if he lets his ego get to him with the defensive scheme. This team can win on talent alone. Scheme is great, but if you're going to ask a depleted and inexperienced secondary to perform miracles, you sleep in the bed you made for yourself.

    There's no such thing as a bad Rex Ryan defense. Especially with the talent this team has. But is anyone going to argue that the Schwartz method isn't a better fit for this year under these circumstances? I think we should save the blitz-happy nonsense for future years when the DL is weaker and the DBs are stronger.

    It's a concern in my view.
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    Re: I have a serious concern about the D

    Agreed here.

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    Re: I have a serious concern about the D

    I think it's plain to see that Darby cannot be left one-on-one every single play like that. I guarantee the Bills pick a CB in the 1st next year unless McKelvin comes back and goes lights out and Gilmore learns to get his head around.

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    Part of the beauty of Schwartz's philosophy and scheme was it's simplicity, lining up the talent and letting them play.
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    Re: I have a serious concern about the D

    I think we're showing VERY little of our defense in the preseason. I'm not worried at all.

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    Re: I have a serious concern about the D

    The starters did look shaky last night. Not sure we have the CBs to play Rex's all out blitz defense. And with all the talent I'm not sure we have to. Maybe Rex should dial it back a little and play closer to what Schwartz did. Who would have thought the offense would have out played the defense last night?

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    Re: I have a serious concern about the D

    I think there's been a lot of ongoing player evaluation going on. I think they know who can do what by now. I think they'll be ok. Some won't like it, but they really need to get McKelvin back.

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    Re: I have a serious concern about the D

    no gameplanning going on. Almost sure they wont be leaving Darby in an island in regular games

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    Re: I have a serious concern about the D

    Rex has been throwing Darby to the wolves all preseason to prepare him. This was the most talented receiving group Darby has seen thus far, so it was a great game for him to learn from. I think you'll see him get some help once the season starts and he won't be left out on an island.

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    Re: I have a serious concern about the D

    Of course Darby is going to get help.
    Gilmore on the other hand.... will be the one on the island.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justasportsfan View Post
    no gameplanning going on. Almost sure they wont be leaving Darby in an island in regular games
    I'm not sure about that in this case. One of the players made a comment yesterday (I think it was Cassel in the post-game presser) about the last two days of practice being 'all about Pittsburgh'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by k-oneputt View Post
    Of course Darby is going to get help.
    Gilmore on the other hand.... will be the one on the island.
    Hopefully the 'help' isn't reverting back to Pettine's 'play the corners 10 yards off the line of scrimmage', which Darby actually was a few times last night.

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    safety over the top.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justasportsfan View Post
    no gameplanning going on. Almost sure they wont be leaving Darby in an island in regular games
    the postive is at least after last night that shouldnt be a thought by the coaches

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    Re: I have a serious concern about the D

    Rex has been testing Darby all preseason to see how far along he is.
    He is not leaving him out there like that against the Colts.

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    Re: I have a serious concern about the D

    Quote Originally Posted by k-oneputt View Post
    Rex has been testing Darby all preseason to see how far along he is.
    He is not leaving him out there like that against the Colts.
    I'm hoping he's leaving him off the field. They are going to reshuffle the secondary. Mark my words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HHURRICANE View Post
    I'm hoping he's leaving him off the field. They are going to reshuffle the secondary. Mark my words.
    And replace him with who?

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    Quote Originally Posted by YardRat View Post
    Part of the beauty of Schwartz's philosophy and scheme was it's simplicity, lining up the talent and letting them play.
    Definitely. Preston Brown was interviewed during camp and he mentioned that the main difference is that now he has to sit back and make a read as to which hole to plug. Whereas under Schwartz there was no thinking involved. They had their gap and just nailed it. That comment made me worry about our young LBS hesitating, and leading to a less effective run defense because of the added complexity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by K-Gun View Post
    Definitely. Preston Brown was interviewed during camp and he mentioned that the main difference is that now he has to sit back and make a read as to which hole to plug. Whereas under Schwartz there was no thinking involved. They had their gap and just nailed it. That comment made me worry about our young LBS hesitating, and leading to a less effective run defense because of the added complexity.
    Although it has been encouraging to see 4 DL on the field most snaps. the DL and depth on the DL is the strength of this team. It would be stupid to try and run 4 LBS and take our strength off the field.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICRockets View Post
    I think we're showing VERY little of our defense in the preseason. I'm not worried at all.
    This. We're just not planning at all to stop the other teams, hiding most of what's to come. The Colts are going to get smothered, then it's off to molest Brady.

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