lol. All Bills fans have plenty of experience with disappointment. Do you think we really need your help? BTW you sound like OP. "Things have sucked, there's no evidence yet that anything's any different, so things still suck, trust me, I'm always right". Sounds like an awesome fan experience, where do I sign up?
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Not that is something I can agree with!!
I've already said (I believe in another thread) that for the first time in a long time, I have trust in the head coach. I think that Rex brings at least 3 wins to the table just because of superior coaching. I'm also very confident (and, yes, EXCITED) that HE is the guy to bring along with Tyrod and EJ and have them playing at least average NFL QB'ing.
Those two things means the playoffs THIS year. With a tough churl and Brady with a chip on his shoulder, it's going to be very, very tough. If the Bills start the year out strong, there is no telling how many wins they will get.
There is an excellent chance they could go 7-0 before the bye. Not THAT would be something to get EXCITED about!!!
Goobylal (09-01-2015)
After reading this site, and the Range for years....seems like typical Bills fans have never learned their lessons and constantly repeat history.
The level of "excitement" when Trent took over was palpable....and complete unfounded. Fitz was a bandaid and there were more than a few posters calling 'Super Bowl'. When Orton took over you'd think that we actually had star QB behind center.
I think the better statement is "All Bills fans have plenty of experience with unreasonable, uncontrollable and unfounded expectations that is usually been let down"
I think the point is, if I may, it's all well and good to get excited about another season. Lord knows it's been a while since we've had a decent coach and there's every reason to expect that the defense will be elite again this year despite any "fool's gold".
But the quarterback situation is likely not substantially changed and the path to hell is littered with guys who have never started before that have great preseasons.
We've seen it before. Trent was the game manager with "pocket presence". Fitz was the gunslinger who would finally take the chances downfield that Trent wouldn't. EJ was the first #1 pick QB since Kelly that lit up the combines. Orton was the experienced starter that could make the clutch throws that EJ could not.
Hopeful yes, but realistic.
End the thread. Go Bills.
Lehner's history. He just doesn't know it yet.
notacon (09-01-2015)
Some do, some don't. Personally I don't think being overly optimistic is such a bad thing. Hope is always more enjoyable than "realism", even false hope. Anyway, I haven't seen anyone and I mean anyone making wild predictions for this year or calling Tierod some kind of savior. So tell me again, what's the point of this thread?
Of course it's your opinion, but the way you phrase things is extremely off-putting a lot of times, which is why it seems you get the backlash you do when you engage others.
I don't even entirely disagree with you. Like I said in another thread, these preseason games haven't really changed my mind about any of the QBs. All three (sorry Simms) have looked better in the preseason than I thought they would, but that's to be taken with a grain of salt. I said we probably have three middle-of-the-road QBs at best.
Tyrod is the biggest wildcard of the three, obviously. I wouldn't go so far as to say he sucks just yet. There are at still tons of variables at play, which I won't get into just now. We'll learn more later.
The point of the thread is that unbridled optimism about our QB's is unwarranted considering the reality of the situation.
When I see the majority of thread subjects that populate this board, this one is not out of line. Hope is great but it does not win any games. I want to win. The only way to do that as fans is to keep the pressure up. Everyone knows that someone in the Bills front office reads these boards. It should be said that we Bills fans are not satisfied with 15 years of losing football.
It's called keeping the pressure on. If the FO thinks the fans will not revolt they make their decisions because of it. I'm pretty convinced that part of the decision about forgoing Cassel was based on the reaction from Bills fans.
I am NOT satisfied....and will NOT be satisfied until the Bills win a Super Bowl or at least show GREAT progress toward that goal. Playing not to lose is NOT progressing toward that goal.
THAT is what this thread is about.