jackson is 34 the organization wanted to go a different route i get it.
this shouldnt be a story fred was solid in an era of bad bills football. and now the organization with a new staff wants to do something else so be it
no story here
jackson is 34 the organization wanted to go a different route i get it.
this shouldnt be a story fred was solid in an era of bad bills football. and now the organization with a new staff wants to do something else so be it
no story here
What the **** are you talking about ricky ******o?Originally Posted by BillsImpossible
Anybody that isn't ******ed knows I've supported Whaley from the beginning.
Last edited by BertSquirtgum; 09-01-2015 at 08:51 PM.
Get over it.
You are one of the most negative ****s on this board.
Your time is coming to an end.
Get used to winning, loser.
Perhaps Rex wasn't exactly in favor of this. He blatantly s lookays "we are not a better team without Fred."
Jimkelly12203 (09-01-2015)
Again, what the **** are you talking about ricky ******o? I'm an homer until the jet crashes in the middle of the season like it has the past 15 years. Try not to be dumb all of your life.
We'll never really know. I just wish Fred was still on the team.
casdhf (09-02-2015),Jimkelly12203 (09-01-2015),trapezeus (09-02-2015)
Whaley certainly looked uncomfortable during the announcement. That could be because he's naturally like that, or something else...
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Jimkelly12203 (09-01-2015)
i heard the bills chefs daughters baby is an alien planted by whaley who is a shape shifter
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BertSquirtgum (09-01-2015)
sI have a theory. And it's nothing more than that; a THEORY. An interesting (and i think sensible) piece of speculation.
What if, this report is true and Whaley went rogue cutting F-Jax?
Now even if Rex wasn't 100% in love with keeping Jackson, you have to figure that he at least understood (better than anyone as the former Jets HC) how bad it would make him look if Fred was cut. That is to say, even if Rex could live with Fred or without Fred on the roster, when he took the job i can't imagine he thought the guy would be gone. And i'm sure he was fine with keeping him.
Whaley controls the 53. Rex controls the players that play.
Isn't it possible that Whaley really did go rogue here and create a PR disaster? A disaster that some have blamed Rex - the most powerful person in the organization right now, job descriptions aside - for making himself?
If Whaley really did do this as a use of his power as GM without the consent of all other parties. Then maybe the Tyrod announcement that same day wasn't a pre-planned piece of damage control. Maybe it was Rex saying to Whaley, "ok you want to make me look bad by cutting this legendary player, i'll trash your dumb first round QB and the QB you traded for by exercising my power (over who plays) and name Tyrod"
It's RAMPANT speculation on my part. But it makes some sense.
There have been a number of dubious leaks in the past associated with this organization. Doug Marone may be a POS, but he could just be a brash ass-hole that didn't like Whaley's decisions either.
It is at least possible.
And again... T-Pegs tried to replace Whaley with Bill Polian not even 6 months ago... It is at least a good possibility that not everyone is in agreement these days. The kumbaya T-Pegs era may have some fissures at the top ranks.
In any event. Assuming Rex and Whaley even have fundamental disagreements at this point, i can't imagine Rex would want to start off his "last chance" by instigating yet another GM/HC power struggle. He had enough of them in NY.
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I cannot imagine how a GM could think he could cut a fan favorite over the objections of both the head coach and owner and get away with it. Either this story is bunk or he's trying to get fired.
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Meathead (09-02-2015)
That is sensible. I'll give you that. But there are ego-maniacs out there.
And even absent that, wouldn't you be inclined to protect the decisions you've made? I'm sure Whaley thought that this was the right move. Objectively and in the name of the franchise. Doesn't mean he was right about that.
But don't forget he traded for Bryce Brown. And for Cassel (who is now possibly going to get cut).
We all naturally (and without malice) do things that would be in furtherance of our past decisions.
This FJ cut nonsense hasn't gone over particularly well. It has made Rex look bad. Hell it's made them all look bad.
it is not inconceivable that there is compartmentalized damage control going on here in the form of leaks and exercises of job-description-level power.
What i simply cannot believe (not in a million years) is that the powers that be all sat down and decided cutting Fred Jackson was the way to go. I refuse to believe it because it makes no sense.
Sentimental bologna has gotten the Bills nowhere since everyone here was born.
Whaley has backed off his decisions before. He signed Chris Williams - cut. He traded for Mike Williams - cut. He signed Kevin Kolb - cut. He dealt away Kiko Alonso. He's already cut one of his midround draft picks in Ross Cockrell. Hell, even Matt Cassel is coming in to potentially supplant his/Nix's first round pick at QB. I don't really see Whaley as a guy who doubles down on his past.
The only way Doug makes this move is if he's got the support of other elements of the staff or owners, or he wants to get fired to collect on his contract. There's no way he throws a hand grenade at his career to protect his trade for Bryce Brown. Come on now.
BillsImpossible (09-01-2015),Mike (09-02-2015),Oaf (09-02-2015)
Also fair. But how many bad moves (and there absolutely have been as many good ones) does a man want to absorb?
It just seems like a mindless analytics decision through and through. It would positively shock me if a majority of the brain trust was in agreement on this move.
He's 34 F'ng years old!!!!
Stop the nonsense.
All good things must come to an end.
Life happens.
Meathead (09-02-2015)
This came down to finances and nothing more. Karlos passed him on depth chart and they did not want to pay 2 million to a guy who would potentially be inactive for games since no special teams ability.
I love Fred and he was up there with Stevie for me but Ralph also let Reed Thomas and smith walk.
coastal (09-02-2015),CommissarSpartacus (09-02-2015)
What does "going rogue" mean? If it means he defied the Pegulas, good. Ralph meddled. Al Davis meddled. Daniel Snyder still meddles and they all have **** results to show for it.
If he went rogue against coaches and personnel guys, that's different. It could be a case of a leader making an unpopular but necessary decision- time will tell on that. Or it could be an egomaniac doing what he wants despite the advice of experts who are closer to the situation, which is scary.
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