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    BN: Doug Whaley Went Rogue Cutting Fred Jackson

    Per Tim Graham on Twitter...

    Bills organization will remain unified when speaking publicly, but two sources tell me Doug Whaley went rogue in cutting Fred Jackson.
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    Re: BN: Doug Whaley Went Rogue Cutting Fred Jackson

    Tyler Dunne (also of BN) has confirmed (kinda) Graham's report saying he has also heard a version of this story and that Whaley hasn't been a Jackson guy for a while.

    Heard a version of what @ByTimGraham just tweeted. Whaley hasn't been a Jackson guy for a while.

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    Re: BN: Doug Whaley Went Rogue Cutting Fred Jackson

    Sure sounds like a fracture has emerged if somebody in the FO or Coaching Staff is going to sell out Whaley to the media.

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    Re: BN: Doug Whaley Went Rogue Cutting Fred Jackson

    Let's not talk about this any more on the internet, if we do, the media will talk about it and it can lead to a distraction for the locker room.
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    Re: BN: Doug Whaley Went Rogue Cutting Fred Jackson

    Stupid Doug Whaley. Big big stupid head

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    Re: BN: Doug Whaley Went Rogue Cutting Fred Jackson

    ...Bunch of he said, she said garbage...

    Nothing to see here, move on...
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    Re: BN: Doug Whaley Went Rogue Cutting Fred Jackson

    Yeah and they had sources saying Cassel would start, and instead he'll soon be cut.

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    Re: BN: Doug Whaley Went Rogue Cutting Fred Jackson

    Cassel isn't starting and FJ is old, so what else is there to know ?

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    Re: BN: Doug Whaley Went Rogue Cutting Fred Jackson

    So Whaley wants to win with 'his guys', regardless of the value of any holdovers? Interesting.

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    Maybe that's why Chandler was dumped also.
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    Re: BN: Doug Whaley Went Rogue Cutting Fred Jackson

    Quote Originally Posted by YardRat View Post
    So Whaley wants to win with 'his guys', regardless of the value of any holdovers? Interesting.

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    Maybe that's why Chandler was dumped also.

    I dont like this move but I feel like every coach and gm does this and gets rid of the previous regime to go with 'their guy'
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    Re: BN: Doug Whaley Went Rogue Cutting Fred Jackson

    You have to admit that it's an interesting rumor.

    We mustn't forget that there was a time (not long ago at all) when T-Pegs was evidently trying to court Bill Polian. And what could such courtship have been other than an effort to replace Whaley?

    Add in the fact that Whaley was the driving force behind the trade for Bryce Brown and... yeah it kind of makes some sense.

    That being said, Rex Ryan is the most powerful person in this organization right now. If he truly wanted to keep Jackson AND was willing to sell out Whaley and second guess his decision making to the boss he could have done so.

    But that's just the thing. Who wants to start their relationship with the GM that way? Especially given Rex's tortured past with incompetent Jets GMs.
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    Re: BN: Doug Whaley Went Rogue Cutting Fred Jackson

    Quote Originally Posted by kscdogbillsfan1221 View Post
    I dont like this move but I feel like every coach and gm does this and gets rid of the previous regime to go with 'their guy'
    To a certain point, yes. It also wouldn't be that unusual for a new regime to supplant the old leadership in favor of new. Reeks of insecurity, though. If FJ was a 'mud-raker' or 'trouble-maker' type leader, I could understand it, but he's a 'team' guy all the way regardless of who the head coach or GM is. A good administrator knows how to utilize those qualities, not jettison them.

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    Re: BN: Doug Whaley Went Rogue Cutting Fred Jackson

    More to the story now...

    http://www.syracuse.com/buffalo-bill...d_jackson.html

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    Re: BN: Doug Whaley Went Rogue Cutting Fred Jackson

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    Stupid Doug Whaley. Big big stupid head
    Stop self projecting.

    You blame everyone else for your own faults, BS.

    Look in the freaking mirror, loser.

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    Re: BN: Doug Whaley Went Rogue Cutting Fred Jackson

    Quote Originally Posted by DraftBoy View Post
    There's nothing more to the story.

    Karlos Williams outperformed Fred Jackson and he costs a hell of a lot less.

    End of story.

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    Re: BN: Doug Whaley Went Rogue Cutting Fred Jackson

    Quote Originally Posted by DraftBoy View Post
    OK, I've given Whaley the benefit of the doubt for the most part and defended most of his moves (up until the drunken spending spree on tinker toys this off season), but if that's the case he is officially dead to me.

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    Re: BN: Doug Whaley Went Rogue Cutting Fred Jackson

    Quote Originally Posted by YardRat View Post
    OK, I've given Whaley the benefit of the doubt for the most part and defended most of his moves (up until the drunken spending spree on tinker toys this off season), but if that's the case he is officially dead to me.
    I've been a Whaley guy as well, but I can't support all of this if it's true.

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    Re: BN: Doug Whaley Went Rogue Cutting Fred Jackson

    Then Pegula will fire him, since he said in the spring Fred was staying, right ?

    i really could care less what Graham has to say.

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    Re: BN: Doug Whaley Went Rogue Cutting Fred Jackson

    I don't feel too bad saying I'm not sold on Whaley, rumors or not. Regardless of whether or not Jackson has any game left, and I think that speaks for itself, they've been in a hurry to get rid of him without finding out. I mean he obviously still has some game, he ran for 41 last round, and caught 66 passes last year whether or not people like it.

    Ryan himself said the team is not better for getting rid of him, which is kind of pretty stupid for a coach with a rep for effort players striving to make his team better, to say.

    Wouldn't really surprise me if Whaley is madly struggling to impress suits he's not impressing with his dozy mellow.

    I also don't see why Ryan wouldn't want a supposed obvious Ryan fierce guy, or why the rumors are slipping out that Jackson just wanted to stay and retire here and they didn't give him a chance.

    Unless it all comes down to dozy mellow "it's all good" Whaley.

    Just imho, Graham has connections and doesn't say too much stupid stuff when he says anything.

    I just don't see Whaley being any kind of genius during his big chance to be competent as a GM.

    Always looks like he's trying too hard if always tranquilized to me.
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    Re: BN: Doug Whaley Went Rogue Cutting Fred Jackson

    Quote Originally Posted by Night Train View Post
    Then Pegula will fire him, since he said in the spring Fred was staying, right ?

    i really could care less what Graham has to say.
    Not just Graham saying it anymore.

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