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  • X-Era
    What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace
    • Feb 2005
    • 27670

    Post game musings

    This team is impressing:

    1. Tyrod looks very good. But, I can't help but wonder if we run into one good to great year from him. Bledsoe, Holcomb, Fitz... long list of one year wonders for us. I'm worried he'll want a contract after this year if we make it into the playoffs. We'd have to feel confident that he can be an every year playoff guy. I'd rather wait another year before extending him to a big deal. But, man he looks good.
    2. Great signings by Whaley. Incognito is a beast. Clay was the nasty weapon we've been waiting for since Metz.
    3. Roman has the Offense potent. They can score through the air and are carving up yards in the run game.
    4. The Defense needs to get sacks. This game was the worst I've seen in a long time as far as holding calls goes. There was terrible holding on every damn Miami snap. They were taking guys down every play.
    5. What a draft class...
      1. Darby looks great so far. I like his play better than Gilmore's lately
      2. Miller is a very good looking G
      3. Karlos Williams... I mean seriously


    I'm not ready to call this a playoff team just yet. We have to string the wins together. No drop off's. Beat teams we can beat. Win at home. Steal games on the road. Survive injuries without a significant drop off.
    Last edited by X-Era; 09-30-2015, 05:54 PM.

  • Dozerdog
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    • Jul 2002
    • 42586

    #2
    Re: Post game musings

    Karlos Miller?

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    • YardRat
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      • Dec 2004
      • 86146

      #3
      Re: Post game musings

      I'm waiting to see how Tyrod performs late in the year, when everybody has a full book on him to work from.
      Gilmore is getting close to lock down status, hope he stays healthy. I don't know what switch was pulled on Darby in between the preseason and regular but I like it, he's playing really well.
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      • DraftBoy
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        • Jul 2002
        • 107452

        #4
        Re: Post game musings

        Originally posted by YardRat View Post
        I'm waiting to see how Tyrod performs late in the year, when everybody has a full book on him to work from.
        Gilmore is getting close to lock down status, hope he stays healthy. I don't know what switch was pulled on Darby in between the preseason and regular but I like it, he's playing really well.
        Gotta give Donnie Henderson all the credit in the world. It's like night and day with how Darby looks now.
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        • Topas
          German smartass
          • Feb 2014
          • 880

          #5
          Re: Post game musings

          Originally posted by Dozerdog View Post
          Karlos Miller?
          Fire Whaley right now. He spent two draft picks on Karlos Miller, a 2nd and a 5th round pick. And which team would be willing to give up 2 draft picks for this guy? Whaley sucks !!!

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          • DraftBoy
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            • Jul 2002
            • 107452

            #6
            Re: Post game musings

            Also think you overlooked the signing of Percy Harvin who has become a machine for Tyrod.
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            • Topas
              German smartass
              • Feb 2014
              • 880

              #7
              Re: Post game musings

              Originally posted by X-Era View Post
              This team is impressing:

              1. Tyrod looks very good. But, I can't help but wonder if we run into one good to great year from him. Bledsoe, Holcomb, Fitz... long list of one year wonders for us. I'm worried he'll want a contract after this year if we make it into the playoffs. We'd have to feel confident that he can be an every year playoff guy. I'd rather wait another year before extending him to a big deal. But, man he looks good.
              2. Great signings by Whaley. Incognito is a beast. Clay was the nasty weapon we've been waiting for since Metz.
              3. Roman has the Offense potent. They can score through the air and are carving up yards in the run game.
              4. The Defense needs to get sacks. This game was the worst I've seen in a long time as far as holding calls goes. There was terrible holding on every damn Miami snap. They were taking guys down every play.
              5. What a draft class...
                1. Darby looks great so far. I like his play better than Gilmore's lately
                2. Miller is a very good looking G
                3. Karlos Miller... I mean seriously


              I'm not ready to call this a playoff team just yet. We have to string the wins together. No drop off's. Beat teams we can beat. Win at home. Steal games on the road. Survive injuries without a significant drop off.
              With regard to 1.: I think his contract is voided if he starts more than half the season. So we will most probably not have the option of signing him only after next year.

              And I am not sure Darby is better than Gilmore. Darby is targeted very often and has quite a few completions. Gilmore seems only targeted very rarely and most often breaks the pass up. At least as far as I remember. But that being said, Darby was a great draft pick.

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              • IlluminatusUIUC
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                • Sep 2012
                • 8966

                #8
                Re: Post game musings

                Originally posted by Topas View Post
                With regard to 1.: I think his contract is voided if he starts more than half the season. So we will most probably not have the option of signing him only after next year.
                His 2017 year voids in that case, not 2016. He's signed through next year regardless.


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                • Topas
                  German smartass
                  • Feb 2014
                  • 880

                  #9
                  Re: Post game musings

                  Ok, thanks, Illuminati for the info. I am happy to be wrong there. Him being a UFA already after this season would have sucked.

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                  • OpIv37
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                    • Sep 2002
                    • 101230

                    #10
                    Re: Post game musings

                    Originally posted by IlluminatusUIUC View Post
                    His 2017 year voids in that case, not 2016. He's signed through next year regardless.
                    Still a scary thought. What if Tyrod keeps playing like this and we have to give him up after two seasons? Or completely demolish the D to fit him under the cap?

                    It's looking like Pegula bought us a two year window. That's not necessarily a bad thing- you build the best team you can by drafting well, then when the team is on the brink, buy the missing pieces in FA and hope it works out. It's really the only way to do it in the salary cap era. I just worry that the foundation wasn't quite there yet when Pegula went for broke.
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                    • casdhf
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                      • Jul 2002
                      • 17542

                      #11
                      Re: Post game musings

                      Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
                      Still a scary thought. What if Tyrod keeps playing like this and we have to give him up after two seasons? Or completely demolish the D to fit him under the cap?

                      It's looking like Pegula bought us a two year window. That's not necessarily a bad thing- you build the best team you can by drafting well, then when the team is on the brink, buy the missing pieces in FA and hope it works out. It's really the only way to do it in the salary cap era. I just worry that the foundation wasn't quite there yet when Pegula went for broke.
                      If Tyrod keeps playing like he did yesterday, the foundation will be there and going for broke was the right move. You should enjoy the ride for once. The team looks good.
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                      • Saratoga Slim
                        Registered User
                        • Jul 2005
                        • 4154

                        #12
                        Re: Post game musings

                        Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
                        Still a scary thought. What if Tyrod keeps playing like this and we have to give him up after two seasons? Or completely demolish the D to fit him under the cap?

                        It's looking like Pegula bought us a two year window. That's not necessarily a bad thing- you build the best team you can by drafting well, then when the team is on the brink, buy the missing pieces in FA and hope it works out. It's really the only way to do it in the salary cap era. I just worry that the foundation wasn't quite there yet when Pegula went for broke.

                        I was thinking that in the second half yesterday. The reason Whalay's cap works right now is that we are paying the most expensive position on the field peanuts. I mean literally, our kicker makes three times as much as our starting QB. Link.

                        If Taylor plays like this all season, he's going to want a top-10 QB salary. Whether that comes in 2017, or perhaps earlier if his agent pushes a holdout next summer, something's gotta give. Maybe Mario restructures his contract and clears some cap, maybe the cap rises and creates space....but we also have Bradham, Gilmore and Glenn coming up too.



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                        • gebobs
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                          • Sep 2003
                          • 11520

                          #13
                          Re: Post game musings

                          Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
                          Still a scary thought. What if Tyrod keeps playing like this and we have to give him up after two seasons? Or completely demolish the D to fit him under the cap?

                          It's looking like Pegula bought us a two year window. That's not necessarily a bad thing- you build the best team you can by drafting well, then when the team is on the brink, buy the missing pieces in FA and hope it works out. It's really the only way to do it in the salary cap era. I just worry that the foundation wasn't quite there yet when Pegula went for broke.
                          If Taylor leads us to a winning record this year, the Bills will offer to extend. The offer will probably be very good and he'd be a fool to turn it down. IMHO, Taylor's success thus far, limited though that it is, is 90% system. It would not necessarily translate to another offense.
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                          • djjimkelly
                            Registered User
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 7045

                            #14
                            Re: Post game musings

                            ITS MILLER TME!

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                            Last edited by djjimkelly; 09-28-2015, 08:06 AM.

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                            • IlluminatusUIUC
                              Registered User
                              • Sep 2012
                              • 8966

                              #15
                              Re: Post game musings

                              Tyrod Taylor turning into a franchise QB we need to pay is a good problem. The kind of problem we've been begging for.

                              In any event, you can re-make your roster and cap dramatically in two offseasons. Mario, Wood, and Kyle will be primed for restructures in 2017 if necessary, presumably McKelvin will be gone or on a reduced deal with Darby in his spot, and EJ Manuel would presumably leave.


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