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    McCoy out Sunday according to SI

    http://www.si.com/nfl/2015/09/28/buf...ew-york-giants

    Karlos Williams can play but behind him it's Dixon- that's scary

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    Re: McCoy out Sunday according to SI

    It's good to get McCoy at 100% if the bills are seriously going to make a run they'll need that. And the only way to get him there is rest him for a bit. Hopefully Karlos can stay healthy and they can get through this with no harm done.

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    Re: McCoy out Sunday according to SI

    Giants have the #2 rush D in the league and our best RB is likely out.

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    Re: McCoy out Sunday according to SI

    Ok sorry op. I know we're gonna lose 38-3 that's means.

    We also have the best rushing game in the league. How many of those yards are from McCoy?

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    Re: McCoy out Sunday according to SI

    That just means it's Tyrod's time to shine. He's gonna light it up. Can't wait.

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    Re: McCoy out Sunday according to SI

    Kinda makes me scratch my head why they let Bryce Brown go after week 1...McCoy, Karlos, and Boobie were all banged up most or all of the preseason. Brown actually played pretty well in the preseason I thought. Andre Fluellen is still on the team and I'm not sure if he's been active once, and if he has he either hasn't seen the field or hasn't done a thing out there.
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    Re: McCoy out Sunday according to SI

    if they want Bryce Brown they can have him, he still not working
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    Re: McCoy out Sunday according to SI

    If he's not ready to go I'd much rather sit him a week and give him that time to truly heal the hammy. Even if his absence hurts us, this is a non-conference game. Perfect time to bite the bullet.

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    Re: McCoy out Sunday according to SI

    Giants had the worst run D last year in terms of YPC allowed (4.9), but are one of the best this year (3.4). I'm hoping a regression to the mean is in order here.

    Doesn't seem like it's doing him or us any good to throw him out there every Sunday, so I'm fine with sitting him for the time being. Not real comfortable with Dixon as the backup, but we'll see if they mix Thigpen in here and there or whatnot.
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    Re: McCoy out Sunday according to SI

    Don't like Thigpen in the backfield at all, but it would be nice if he could have a big game on punt returns this week. Time to see what Karlos brings to the table catching balls. I feel better about KW coming in for an injured LMc than I ever did with CJ replacing FJax.

    NYG may be second against the run, but they are dead last against the pass (yes, even worse than Buffalo), and they don't have a 466-yard anomaly against NE skewing the stats (356/Dallas, 363/Atlanta, 316/Washington).
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    Re: McCoy out Sunday according to SI

    I liked what I saw of practice squad RB Cierre Wood in the pre-season. 5-11 216 and ran with speed and power. They can bring him to the active roster.

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    Re: McCoy out Sunday according to SI

    I'm going to predict that McCoy will be out until the Cincy game. It's not like rest one week it is all fixed. Two weeks is the minimum for his kind of injury.

    The biggest miss the next two games is not in terms of rushing. It is more catching passes out of the backfield. McCoy is really smooth with that and Tyrod has a nice touch (world different from EJ) on those passes. Also I noticed that they have scrapped the screen game completely with tyrod where McCoy is really good at. I don't know it is because McCoy is hurt or Tyrod is short (making it a little more difficult throw). Originally I thought our O-Line is not mobile enough for that, but Miami game showed they can do moving pockets etc.

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    Re: McCoy out Sunday according to SI

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    Quote Originally Posted by YardRat View Post
    Don't like Thigpen in the backfield at all, but it would be nice if he could have a big game on punt returns this week. Time to see what Karlos brings to the table catching balls. I feel better about KW coming in for an injured LMc than I ever did with CJ replacing FJax.

    NYG may be second against the run, but they are dead last against the pass (yes, even worse than Buffalo), and they don't have a 466-yard anomaly against NE skewing the stats (356/Dallas, 363/Atlanta, 316/Washington).
    Hence their low run defense.
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    Re: McCoy out Sunday according to SI

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    Ok sorry op. I know we're gonna lose 38-3 that's means.

    We also have the best rushing game in the league. How many of those yards are from McCoy?
    146 out of 458 rush yards belong to McCoy. Willams has more with 186.

    But, Dixon has zero. We only have 2 RB's with positive yards on the season- McCoy and Williams- and one of them is out vs the #2 rush D in the league. You don't see that as a problem? Seriously?

    http://www.nfl.com/teams/statistics?team=BUF

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    Re: McCoy out Sunday according to SI

    Good. They should rest him as long as it takes. Karlos and Boobie can handle the load.
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    Re: McCoy out Sunday according to SI

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    if they want Bryce Brown they can have him, he still not working
    I'd take Brown over Goodwin at this point.

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    Re: McCoy out Sunday according to SI

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37 View Post
    146 out of 458 rush yards belong to McCoy. Willams has more with 186.

    But, Dixon has zero. We only have 2 RB's with positive yards on the season- McCoy and Williams- and one of them is out vs the #2 rush D in the league. You don't see that as a problem? Seriously?

    http://www.nfl.com/teams/statistics?team=BUF

    0 - yards and 1 TD rushing . Thats gotta some kind of record .

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    Re: McCoy out Sunday according to SI

    Quote Originally Posted by YardRat View Post
    NYG may be second against the run, but they are dead last against the pass (yes, even worse than Buffalo), and they don't have a 466-yard anomaly against NE skewing the stats (356/Dallas, 363/Atlanta, 316/Washington).
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    Hence their low run defense.
    Another way to look at it is to see who they've played: Dallas, Atlanta, and Washington. None of these teams has an established running attack. The featured back on each team is a young, middle-round pick. As such, they are all basically pass-first offenses.

    And to further exacerbate the above, each team was playing catch up. The Giants held leads of 7, 3, and 9 at half and leads of 3, 10, and 12 after three quarters. It's hardly surprising that their opponents abandoned the run.

    What may be telling is that the Giants lost two of these games.
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    Re: McCoy out Sunday according to SI

    Already put in my waiver wire request for Karlos. Looks like I need a handcuff for McCoy this season. Dropping Doug Martin as my flex. He's been a disappointment after all the talk he got. Karlos almost makes me hope we can trade McCoy's contract away in the off-season but maybe I should see how he does with a full game of carries next week. He looks like he could be an every-down back. I was hoping we could somehow get Derick Henry in the 2016 draft from Alabama, but now I'm seeing a very similarly talented guy already here.

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    Re: McCoy out Sunday according to SI

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37 View Post
    146 out of 458 rush yards belong to McCoy. Willams has more with 186.

    But, Dixon has zero. We only have 2 RB's with positive yards on the season- McCoy and Williams- and one of them is out vs the #2 rush D in the league. You don't see that as a problem? Seriously?

    http://www.nfl.com/teams/statistics?team=BUF
    Not nessacarily. Karlos Williams has showed me nothing to prove he can't be an excellent back in this league. And Greg Roman has proven to me he can call an excellent game. I have FAITH in the bills coaching staff to plan a game to put Williams in a spot to succed.

    Is McCoy out not the ideal situation? Of course it is, but that doesn't mean it's the end of the world and automatic loss because of some stat 3 weeks into the season.

    No **** we want our starting RB on the field.. No need to state that and get mad when other people think it's still possible to win without him though. Seriously .

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