To be clear, that was written when Mario was one of if not the most talented player we had, that's not the case anymore.Originally Posted by delectrolux
To be clear, that was written when Mario was one of if not the most talented player we had, that's not the case anymore.
Who else on the team became a First-team All-pro over these last three games?
Don't be a ******.
Do you remember Chris Kelsey, Denney, Aaron Schobel(to a lesser extent), Chidi Ahonatu, Spencer Johnson, Keith Ellison? We had some awful pass tubers in the last 15 years. We were rolling with Kelsay and Schobel for 6 long years.
I hated those guys. I hated the milque toast pass rush, the high motor guys, guys that had a singular move. My god, we have a world class pass rusher. Lets wait till his play declines before we think about getting rid of him.
"Hate is a lack of imagination."
-Graham Greene
GvilleBills (10-01-2015),The last buffalo fan (10-02-2015)
Who said to get rid of him ?? Asking him to be reasonable is what's relevant.
And that is why you're famous, Amos.
Diehard BillGator... best of both worlds
Because asking him to take a pay cut will make him want a trade or a release.
What the hell is a 'pass tuber'?
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Being reasonable is not asking a Pro Bowl, All-Pro player to take a pay cut. Im all for restructuring, but there is no way he takes a pay cut and he shouldnt have to.
I hate that people say we spend too much money on the D-Line, its the strength of our team so what the hell else would we spend it on. When we get a franchise QB and are paying 200 million to the D-Line then ill worry. Until then its not unreasonable to pay the best position group on our team the most money
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Going to go out on a limb here and assume that it was an autocorrect from rusher
Omg! So glad your not the GM! Hell, you probably clammored to lock up fitz at 5-1. You have ZERO knowledge of his responsibility in this defense! ZERO!!! So please go back to madden and do what you do! PS, you don't write his check, so stop saying WE are paying him to much!
Remember Schobel and Denney?
Those are two contracts that people should have really complained about.
Famous Amos (10-02-2015)
Exactly. In some of the plays for which I have watched him specifically, he was tasked with an upfield rush to put pressure on while maitaining contain of the QB. It is clear that part of the game plan in the Indy and Miami games involved limiting the options of QBs who can run. This defense often relies on free blitzers to run to the QB while the DL pushes the pocket. The ability to occupy one or more blockers is not while still pushing upfield is hardly an everyday skill. As others have said, not a stats-oriented approach for the DL.
feldspar (10-02-2015)
LOL. Chris Kelsay. The DE that wouldn't go away.
coastal (10-07-2015)
Here's the thing people still don't understand...you can't just restructure a deal because the team wants to. The player has to be willing to do it and what is our alternative? What happens if we go to Mario and say we would like to rework the deal and he says no? What are you going to do cut him?
If the deal gets reworked then that's fine but its not going to include a huge cut in pay. It's going to shift money into a guarantee through a bonus of some sort v. annual salary.
COMING SOON...
exactly! and here we are *****ing about an all pro lineman. If I ever get mad at this line, I just remember Schobel/Kelsay/Denney and Kelsays neverending extensions then I feel much better.
I came.
I saw.
I conquered.
Famous Amos (10-03-2015)
https://streamable.com/89c2
This video is meant to feature Hughes but really you can zero in on any D lineman. Mario's bread and butter is power moves to knock the guy across from him off balance so he can turn on the short area quickness to get by the tackle. In that video Mario seemed just doing power moves and the right tackle did a good job of staying at arms length from Mario so that he had some space to recover. I don't think I see too much quickness from Mario yet. But he's streaky player.
On the other hand, Hughes just offers something none other Bills D players have - quickness, lateral, outside, and inside moves are just unreal. Any team having to pass on us will have their hands full with him. Heck he strip-sacked even the mighty Brady.
The last thing I want to add is I'm glad Rex incorporated some of the wide 9 stands that Schwartz employed last year. It worked last year.
I watched the Miami game again last night. Mario and the entire defensive line were absolute wrecking balls. They may not have gotten sacks but they get as much credit as any squad for that game. At third and long on the Dolphins' second drive, Williams was about to smother Tannehill when he got off a short pass that was quickly contained. As he released the ball, Mario gave him a nice shove and Tannehill dropped like a rag doll. On a third and short, Williams stopped a receiver on an end around 3 yards behind the line. Someone else might have gotten credit for the play, but he made it happen.
Lehner's history. He just doesn't know it yet.
Any credit for Mario this past week ? Maybe we should double his pay now ?? He needs a haircut soon, this is a joke and his lack of effort is right there. He flipped one guy over, wow I'm impressed.
coastal (10-07-2015),Mr. Cynical (10-06-2015)
Yeah youre right the biggest issue was with Mario last week.
He's the DE whos getting all the penalties right? You want to complain about someone make it Hughes, he got paid too.
Edit: To clarify i'm not complaining about either one of them, but im just making a point. You can complain about all 4 of the D lineman right now, theres no need to single out mario.
Last edited by MillsapsBillsFan; 10-06-2015 at 12:47 PM.
Check his production so far this season, it's beyond abysmal. We are going to need his cap to keep TT and other players that actually perform on virtually every play, Mario is taking plays off and it shows.
Extrpoliated out, Mario is a 28 tackle / 4 sack man. Is that worth $16 Million a season ?? He's not going to make it on the team folks, not at his current money.
Last edited by Skooby; 10-06-2015 at 12:54 PM.
coastal (10-07-2015)
The D-Line has 3 sacks so far this season, he has 1/3 of the sacks for our D line (Sounds better that way right?). Im not disagreeing that he should be restructured, but theres no way he agrees to a pay cut.
This is a Dline production issue as a whole which has been created by every QB we play getting the ball out as quickly as possible.
This talk that we need cap room now to resign TT is insane, hes played 4 games and he still has time on his contract, so lets pump the brakes there. Other than that who are our big money free agents? Glenn? Hell I can go stand out there and get 2 holding calls a week. Bradham? sure I want to keep him but hes not going to get superstar money.
Ill worry about Mario and our Dline at the bye week if things havent still picked up. The sky isnt falling yet lets calm down a little
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