As I understood it, 2016 was a year we could fix Mario's contract & it needs to happen. The guy is eating a huge amount of cap and doing nothing to earn it, if anything we might be able to fill his space with a more talented player for 1/4 the cost. There was a time were I'd consider this heresy but he looks underwhelming, barely trying & coasting. It just has to end and we will be better for it.
He's being paid near #1 money for talent, I'd say he's not even in the top 7 on our team.
Mr. Cynical (10-06-2015)
paying half for 80% of the production...
The Bills way for the last 15 years. Worked so well.
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coastal (10-07-2015)
the level of worries for people is unbelievable. we are 2-1 and the team largely looks better than most expected. it would have been nice to hang with the patriots longer. but they are in good shape to be competitive and win vs the giants. 3-1 is pretty good.
He's not hurt...he hasn't cost the team any noticably big plays. yes, it was a big contract. he's a big time player. he came at a time when no one would come here. and he started as a big piece of being a very good defense.
Does anyone remember the wanndestat years? those were miserable.
as for his large cap hit, let's see how this season goes...if we end up .500 or below, we have a ton to think about. if we get into the playoffs and miss a play or two from advancing, he might be very convinced to restructure.
don137 (10-01-2015),Famous Amos (10-01-2015),HHURRICANE (10-02-2015),sukie (10-01-2015),The last buffalo fan (10-02-2015)
Convinced or traded he's not getting the money he's getting paid this year if his production doesn't improve drastically.Originally Posted by trapezeus
His contract is getting restructured no matter.
it's great to make such a declaration in week 3.
everyone wants to resign harvin and tyrod and cut mccoy, watkins and mario.
can we at least get to the bye week before we think about next year? They are a winning team. they are second in the division and seem to be diversified enough to be able to win with big games from preston brown and karlos williams.
we aren't relying on any one person yet.
sukie (10-01-2015)
I get annoyed with people who love to point out his stats but I totally agree, his contract is gonna really create some problems when trying to re-sign other talent. His cap number is gonna be ridic, so why not restructure it in a way where he still gets his money and we are put in a better situation going forward?
I remember reading this article early on this year and it made sense to me.
http://www.buffalorumblings.com/buff...lary-cap-space
The last buffalo fan (10-02-2015)
So many morons here that look at a stat line and don't watch the game. There was actually a play where the announcer said that Mario will get no credit for making the play.
imbondz (10-01-2015),Jry44 (10-02-2015),The last buffalo fan (10-02-2015)
Idiotic thread
Famous Amos (10-01-2015)
Yep.
The guy was first-team All-Pro last year. Three games into this year, he's horrible because the stat sheet says so. Moronic.
While he's a likely candidate to take a restructure, if you think a guy coming off two Pro Bowls and an All-Pro selection is going to willingly take a pay cut then you need to up your medication.
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HHURRICANE (10-02-2015),The last buffalo fan (10-02-2015)
Pay cut not going to happen. Re-structure for team benefit maybe.
In Rex's defense its hard for guys to get stats like they were getting last year.
Last year the defense was predicated on the front four getting to the QB. This year they have tasks and assignments. Sometimes Mario is just trying to distract his man so Roby or Bradham can blitz a specific gap and attack the QB untouched. That leads to more turnovers.
Mario is not going to take less money just because his role is different yet his effectiveness is still there.
The last buffalo fan (10-02-2015)
I completely agree. His stats won't show in this scheme but he is still overpaid in this scheme. Under the 4-3 last year, he earned it only rushing the 4 DL .
Isn't there a 50 some odd page thread about this already?
gebobs (10-01-2015),The last buffalo fan (10-02-2015)
I never said I didn't like Mario or that he's horrible, I'm saying that we are paying this guy a fortune for doing limited things that can be replaced. The guy is making $16 Million a season, forget the stats / unnoticeable play all together because this is huge money that needs to go towards other people for retention.
Anyone focusing on the wins we had being Mario related is nucking futs, he had minimal to do with both of our blow out wins and completely disappeared during the NE debacle (admittedly with the rest of defense but at a very high price).
Last edited by Skooby; 10-01-2015 at 09:31 AM.
coastal (10-07-2015)
What I love about fans. They get pissed at a player for holding out or leaving for a contract that pays more elsewhere, but demand players take pay cuts later in the contract. If your employer gave you a salary of 50,000 a year for 5 years, but in year 3 told you they need you to take a pay cut to 35,000 so they could pay someone else, what would you say?
I'd tell him to kick rocks.
Skooby (10-01-2015)
Why do we need a new thread for this? There's already one that's been open for three years. You don't need to start a new thread every time you think of something when you're in the can.
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Great minds think alike. Fortunately, so do we.
Lehner's history. He just doesn't know it yet.
Have you been actually watching him? Focusing on him on certain plays? You CAN do that, you know. Seemed like every time I focused on him in the Miami game, he was being double-teamed, which freed up other guys to create pressure. I don't think opposing teams would choose to double-team just about any other player we can replace Mario with. Do you?
Stand-alone stats are for people that don't understand the game, quite often. They can stick those stats somewhere in their fantasy league hats.
There are still 13 games to go, and I'm damn glad Mario is on my team.
But restructure? He'll, yes. I've been saying that for a very long time. That's reasonable...saying that he's easily replaceable isn't. I think they will do everything they can to restructure his deal, but I'm too involved with THIS season to care very much about it, as if I have any control over that in the first place.
Skooby (10-01-2015),The last buffalo fan (10-02-2015),YardRat (10-01-2015)
I'm a big believer in value, Mario's value is at least half of his pay / performance. Everyone here figured Darby would be a problem with McKelvin being out but he's a defesnive star right now.
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