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  • ghz in pittsburgh
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    • Aug 2004
    • 5861

    So Roman simplified read for Tyrod in the Dolphins game ...



    4. I think the Bills found their offensive formula at Miami with a game plan that featured play-action, go routes, dumpoffs in the flats and the occasional moving pocket or misdirection design. The common thread here? All of these tactics define the read for the quarterback. Instead of dropping back and scanning the entire field—which Buffalo’s heavy doses of isolation routes demanded in the loss to the Patriots—Tyrod Taylor could drop back and look for one specific target for whom the play was designed. Bills offensive coordinator Greg Roman will have to call this sort of game again when his team hosts an overachieving, highly aggressive Giants defense Sunday.

    From my memory though, I think there were multiple options for Tyrod in the moving pocket even though he's only reading half the field. The moving pocket gave Tyrod more time to find his target.

    Let's see what the Giants do trying to force Tyrod read the entire field like the Pats. It'll be a season long adjustment and counter adjustment for Tyrod.
  • Night Train
    Retired - On Several Levels
    • Jul 2005
    • 33117

    #2
    Re: So Roman simplified read for Tyrod in the Dolphins game ...

    Sounds like the players are getting something this team hasn't had in 15 + years.

    Coaching with successfull adjustments.
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    • casdhf
      Registered User
      • Jul 2002
      • 17542

      #3
      Re: So Roman simplified read for Tyrod in the Dolphins game ...

      So we have a short RGIII. A guy that can make one read?
      Originally posted by BillsZone Mod
      cas,

      I'm just letting you know that you have been given 2 points for telling Wys AKA Mark to kill himself.

      BillsZone Mod

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      • BidsJr
        Registered User
        • Sep 2002
        • 2858

        #4
        Re: So Roman simplified read for Tyrod in the Dolphins game ...

        Originally posted by casdhf View Post
        So we have a short RGIII. A guy that can make one read?
        If this is what your eyes are telling you..... Maybe you should get them checked,
        "Well I drink too much and get punched in the head by fighters for fun, so my memory isn't so great." -OpIv37

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        • WagonCircler
          Escaped Convict
          • Jul 2002
          • 5876

          #5
          Re: So Roman simplified read for Tyrod in the Dolphins game ...

          As his time here goes on, I become more and more impressed with Greg Roman.

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          • starrymessenger
            Registered User
            • Oct 2009
            • 740

            #6
            Re: So Roman simplified read for Tyrod in the Dolphins game ...

            Don't know that this is much different than what Seattle did with Wilson. And with some of the best QBs getting the ball out in 1.2 seconds I really can't imagine they are going thru progressions. It looks to me simply a function of play design, gameplan and scheme. Nothing specific to Tyrod in particular. Now the super deep drops, the rolling out (especially to his left) and the moving pocket are all done to give a shorter QB a better view of the passing lanes. But again that's as much Wilson as Tyrod.

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            • Buffalogic
              Rumblin' Stumblin' Bumblin'
              • Feb 2006
              • 5345

              #7
              Re: So Roman simplified read for Tyrod in the Dolphins game ...

              Hogan was like the 4th option on his td pass. Taylor helped us to 32 points during the pats game. Not buying this fully one way or the other. We probably use a lot of both as all teams do. Except the niners. Kaep sucks.

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              • Forward_Lateral
                Registered User
                • Mar 2004
                • 29895

                #8
                Re: So Roman simplified read for Tyrod in the Dolphins game ...

                I think there's probably a handful of QBs that read the entire field on pass plays. The rest probably read half and some are one read only.

                As long as it keeps working, who cares.

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                • trapezeus
                  Legendary Zoner
                  • Oct 2004
                  • 19525

                  #9
                  Re: So Roman simplified read for Tyrod in the Dolphins game ...

                  if a coach saw somethign didn't work, changed it so that it worked, the qb now has to be ready to change. He has to say, "ok, i see why the simplification worked, but i also now understand some of the nuance you were trying before."

                  If that happens, tyrod will keep getting better.
                  if it doesn't happen, he's going to plateau, because better teams with better talent than miami will exploit simplicity.

                  i still like Tt's demeanor and think he will keep improving as we get to the bye.

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                  • K-Gun
                    Deal with it
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 918

                    #10
                    Re: So Roman simplified read for Tyrod in the Dolphins game ...

                    It seems like Tyrod is good at reading half the field. He doesn't lock on one target. But, when his primary target is on one side, it seems like he isn't mentally quick enough to scan all the way to the other side. For all intents and purposes, he's a rookie in his first live NFL action. It's going to take a while for the game to slow down for him, but when it does, he should be able to see the whole field and not have to cut his options in half.

                    With that said, one of the biggest issues I have so far is the Red Zone offense. It seems like they're giving him one side of the field to work with with limited options on that side. Much like the end of the Super Bowl when Kap rolled out and had just one target or the choice to run. Didn't work when they had double coverage and double spies on that side. Give Tyrod more options in the Red Zone!
                    Last edited by K-Gun; 10-02-2015, 11:36 AM.
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                    • Swiper
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                      • Sep 2010
                      • 33105

                      #11
                      Re: So Roman simplified read for Tyrod in the Dolphins game ...

                      Is this the best OC we've had since Ted Marchibroda? Looking that way.

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                      • kscdogbillsfan1221
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                        • Nov 2007
                        • 5651

                        #12
                        Re: So Roman simplified read for Tyrod in the Dolphins game ...

                        If there's one thing not to complain about is our red zone. We are 83 percent if I remember correctly
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                        • K-Gun
                          Deal with it
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 918

                          #13
                          Re: So Roman simplified read for Tyrod in the Dolphins game ...

                          Originally posted by kscdogbillsfan1221 View Post
                          If there's one thing not to complain about is our red zone. We are 83 percent if I remember correctly
                          Holy crap. That's 2nd in the league. I did not realize. Hope we keep it up!
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                          [F]or no one chooses to be at war, or provokes war, for the sake of being at war; any one would seem absolutely murderous if he were to make enemies of his friends in order to bring about battle and slaughter...

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                          • justasportsfan
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                            • Jul 2002
                            • 71579

                            #14
                            Re: So Roman simplified read for Tyrod in the Dolphins game ...

                            Meanwhile, how is Kaep doing in SF? He's struggling without Roman.
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                            • DesertFox24
                              Registered User
                              • Jul 2005
                              • 2129

                              #15
                              Re: So Roman simplified read for Tyrod in the Dolphins game ...

                              As he develops plays more and becomes more accustomed to the offense this will change. Regardless who cares it is smart coaching and the player is executing it very well after 3 starts.

                              Just another case of people trying to protect their projections of bills sucking by finding an example of something we are doing and finding fault in it.

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