I'd be very concerned about Cundiff's leg in November/December. Bills also signed Denarius Moore.
I'd be very concerned about Cundiff's leg in November/December. Bills also signed Denarius Moore.
I remember that one fateful day when Coach took me aside. I knew what was coming. "You don't have to tell me," I said. "I'm off the team, aren't I?"
"Well," said Coach, "you never were really ON the team. You made that uniform you're wearing out of rags and towels, and your helmet is a toy space helmet.
You show up at practice and then either steal the ball and make us chase you to get it back, or you try to tackle people at inappropriate times."
It was all true what he was saying. And yet, I thought something is brewing inside the head of this Coach.
He sees something in me, some kind of raw talent that he can mold. But that's when I felt the handcuffs go on.
Why concerned?Originally Posted by The King
He's kicked in Cleveland and Baltimore.
So weather shouldn't be an issue as he should be used to kicking in poor weather conditions.
He's also not in those places anymore. If he was kicking well, maybe he wouldn't be available.
I still like the move. I think Rex finally gets that it's an injury problem with Carpenter, and since Cundiff can kickoff and kick FGs reasonably well, he's a good option in case Carpenter's problems continue.
Plus, there's really very little risk that anyone will sign Gay, if Cundiff doesn't work out.
If Carpenter was originally kicking well, he wouldn't be here.
Life of a kicker in the NFL.
Still wouldn't worry about Cundiff kicking in Nov and Dec.
And then let go by both teams.
Mr. Cynical (10-07-2015)
Cundiff sucks.
Thurmal (10-07-2015)
Cundiff is a terrible placekicker, supposedly better at kickoffs than Gay I read somewhere.
If they replace Carpenter with Cundiff, it's flat out foolish.
Mahdi (10-07-2015)
I dont know about better at kickoffs. Im not sure how you would measure that. Looking at stats Gay has a higher percentage of touchbacks, a longer average kick, and fewer average returns (not really all him, but eh). This move makes little sense if they brought him in to challenge carpenter, and even less sense if they brought him in just do kickoffs.
Guess its just to have another leg if something goes wrong, though we already had that. In the long scheme of things its a pretty inconsequential move, but it doesnt really make sense right now.
We can call for Carpenters head all we want, but the facts are Carpenter is a 84% career kicker whos struggling right now and Cundiff is a 76% career kicker who has 0 clutch abilities. We can get rid of Carpenter, but theres nothing better out there and thats something we should recognize
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BillsImpossible (10-07-2015),jimmifli (10-07-2015),Mace (10-07-2015)
carpenter got cut before for being inconsistent and then he was money until now.
we also know he's injured. i think the bills are aware of carpenter's injury and think he may be able to kick through it. but if he has another bad outing, they may season end IR him, and ride with cundiff.
they have a lot of money in carpenter. i'd like to see him come around.
Adam Vinatieri was let go by the Pats, would you worry about him kicking in December?
Not comparing Cundiff and Vinatieri, but it's the nature of the business as far as kickers go...they struggle and end up replaced by someone else.
Morten Andersen played for 6 different teams, Gary Anderson played for 5 different teams. Mark Moseley, the only kicker to ever win NFL MVP, played for 4 different teams. Hell Jan Stenerud, the only kicker in the HOF, played for 3 different teams.
Carpenter's struggles have absolutely nothing to do with Cundiff's ability or lack thereof to kick in November and December. Candid is a castoff, and a middler at best, or he wouldn't be available.
Because they didn't want to pay him. Not because he's ****ty. Both Anderson's came back to replace injured kickers or lousy kickers as well.
So did the Dolphins let go of Carpenter because they didn't want to pay him or because he's ****ty?
Cundiff was 9 for 12 in 2013 in Nov and Dec...two misses from 50+ 10 for 15 last year in those two months, one miss from 50+ So if you wanna claim Cundiff had a bad year last year, you're right, but to just say he can't kick in winter is ludicrous. It's like taking Carpenters last season in Miami and seeing he was 10 for 14 in September and October and saying he can't kick in Fall.
Almost all kickers are middlers, including Carpenter.
As speculated, Cundiff can kick FG's if Carpenter is hurt.
Gay couldn't kick it straight at all on FG's. He was horrible at camp.
Mr. Cynical (10-07-2015)
This is the best explanation. They probably realize he needs to rest to get back to being his former self, so if he misses again, they put in cundiff and let him heal up.
Unless you draft one in the first round.Hard to believe Janikowski is still going strong at 37. Not that his kicking has made them a playoff team though....
Mr. Pink (10-07-2015)
I'm more impressed that he's been on the Raiders his entire career than the fact he got picked in the first round to be honest.Unless you draft one in the first round.
Cundiff is terrible. Career, he's only accurate under 30 yards. Under 30. From anything 30 or more, he's 114 of 154 (74%). So you don't think he's bedeviled by long kicks, even from 30-39 yards he's 62 of 83 (74.6%).
To refine the point, it's not that Cundiff can't kick in winter, it's that he can't kick with any reliability whatever. He misses short, he misses long, he misses in the clutch, he misses in garbage time.
He kicked a good extra point always. Except now they moved it into his 74% 30-39 yard range.
They'd be way better off letting Carpenter have a bad year then replacing him with Cundiff. Would be a terrible decision.
Shayne Graham would be smarter to get than Cundiff, and maybe he won't be available by the time they dump Cundiff after a few games. And make no mistake, Cundiff will not last. He's just not any good.
Other teams can do it with one kicker. Only OBD handles it with 2 roster spots.
gebobs (10-08-2015)
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