both sides of the ball. The nfl is getting really hard to watch. They were completly clueless out there. Really frustrating out much it effects the game.
both sides of the ball. The nfl is getting really hard to watch. They were completly clueless out there. Really frustrating out much it effects the game.
This is turning into the WWF...I'm just waiting till Danny Davis comes out with a steel chair and hits Tyrod in the back.
BillsImpossible (11-24-2015),GvilleBills (11-24-2015),Mace (11-23-2015)
Make no mistake.
The refs affected the outcome of this game.
This is the absolute worst thing you can say about any game.
GvilleBills (11-24-2015),trapezeus (11-24-2015)
yea, but our 3 and out offense and stupid mcfumbles played a bigger partOriginally Posted by feldspar
I came.
I saw.
I conquered.
Agreed. The Pgs should have won 44-10.
Are you sure about that?
Cuz it's for losers to point at the refs, right? Of course it is. The winners of the game would never have a reason to do that.
I won't disagree with the fact that I (again) saw some things, officiating-wise, that I've never seen before and probably will never see again... But, the officials didn't cost the Bills the game.
You can't turn the ball over on punts and expect to win in New England.
You can't, when down by 7, under the 2 minute warning, be lollygagging to the line, eating 20, 30 seconds between snaps.
You can't burn timeouts because you only have 10 defenders on the field.
The Bills didn't play bad, but you have to be near perfect to beat New England in Gillette.
-Bill
GvilleBills (11-24-2015),swiper (11-24-2015),trapezeus (11-24-2015)
first of all, don't ever put me in that category. I have never ever been part of that crowd.
secondly, i agreed with your premise if you read my statement. they did affect the outcome, but i think the d did a good enough job to overcome had the offense showed up and if mcfumbles just stayed on IR
the refs were just as bad for the pats, im not saying it was just agaisnt the bills. They were clueless. I used to think the NFL was going to be around forever, but watching games now is just hard, every big play is a flag.
Jry44 (11-23-2015)
Bull****. Is that supposed to be funny, or do you hate the Bills that much?
It started early with Rambo's INT called back over a bad holding call on Corey Graham. He jammed the guy within five yards is what Graham did, and the Pats ended up scoring three instead of the Bills being set up with 1st and 10 already in field gaol range in a scoreless game.
I originally thought the same thing... But, later in the game, they showed a replay where Graham grabbed Gronkowski's jersey...
I actually had a notepad and made notes of penalties... Tat's how ready I was to blame officiating even before the game started... There's not a lot that I could honestly complain about...
-Bill
I didn't really put you in that category, buddy.
I'm sure I wasn't clear about that...
I was just being proactive against those tough guys that were bound to put ME in that category..."crying" about the refs after a loss is for losers they say. And, again, of course it is, as winners don't give a **** what the hell the refs did.
The reason that the "inadvertent whistle" was called is because the ref was trying to keep Brady from getting hit. Period. I have watched football my whole life, and a whistle means the ball is dead. In New England, though, it apparently means you get a 20 yard catch plus another 15 yards b/c the other coach walked on the sidelines. Another game orchestrated for NE to win. Don't get me wrong; our offense sucked. But the calls were going against us yet again. How many obvious facemask flags could they pick up?
"Miami played pretty damn good today and still got their ass kicked."
Grabbing a jersey is terribly tricky-tack.
They didn't show the replay after it happened at all, so I rewound it and played it several times. I saw nothing wrong. I've never heard of them the showing a play like that later in the game. I didn't see it. But I watched the play many, many times, and there is no way in hell graham grabbed Gronkowski's jersey, I telling you. From the angle I saw, his progress was not impeded in any way. It was a good play on Graham's part.
When did they show it later in the game?
Last edited by feldspar; 11-23-2015 at 10:42 PM.
GvilleBills (11-24-2015),trapezeus (11-24-2015)
I won't disagree about this part, but keep in mind, that drive ended with a missed FG, which led to a game tying Bills TD...
I hated the call and thought it was ridiculous, but the Bills didn't lose the game because of it.
-Bill
Not gonna get into a back and forth about it, but later in the game, they did show a replay from another angle... The jersey grab was pretty blatant and I've seen much less called.
Again, this is coming from a guy that had a notepad in hand writing every controversial penalty all game.
-Bill
These guys should have ONE job....to call NFL games, but unfortunately, most of them have other jobs ....Ed Hochuli was a lawyer, and is now a judge in Phoenix. Shouldn't these guys be full-time refs like in Major League Baseball? Half the time you hear guys like Mike Carey giving his ruling on tv during live games and it is the exact opposite of the ref's ruling.
You cannot even get a good explanation of what is "making a football move," on the Calvin Johnson Rule. And remember the Tom Brady Tuck Rule, which was NEVER called before Brady fumbled the ball in the snow against the Raiders in the AFC Championship. And people wonder if the NFL is fixed. Maybe it's not fixed, but some teams (New England) seem to never get the s*h*i*t end of the stick, like everyone else. Maybe I will just start watching Premiere League soccer where there are not too many rules, but there is a lot of flopping.
Last edited by PhinsFan66; 11-23-2015 at 10:55 PM.
To be completely honest, I don't recall exactly, but pretty sure it was after the half...
NFLN is supposed to reair the game starting at 1AM (It's 1:10 now here)... I wasn't happy about seeing it, believe me, but being objective, again, I've seen much less called.
-Bill
I saw it later in the game also. And I thought it was a phantom call at the time too.
But he had the jersey. If you're an OL or a DB in today's NFL, and the jersey is pulled, you're getting called. That's the way it is.
What did you think about that roughing the kicker non-call at mid-field? It was at least running into the kicker to me. Last time I checked, you can't hit a kicker when he is in mid-air and cause him to land on his back.
That was at mid-field, wasn't it?
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