CAN'T WIN IN THE NFL WITH THE GROUND AND POUND

[mdcas22]

No way can any team let alone the Bills win with a ground and pound attack. the way the rules are now its clearly a passing league, the teams with the best and most accurate passers are winning, if your lucking and have a QB like cam its even better.

[YardRat]

Re: CAN'T WIN IN THE NFL WITH THE GROUND AND POUND

Well I disagree, I think you can...as long Step 1 does not equal completely ****ing up an already established dominant defense.

[Novacane]

Re: CAN'T WIN IN THE NFL WITH THE GROUND AND POUND

The Vikings are doing it

[mdcas22]

Re: CAN'T WIN IN THE NFL WITH THE GROUND AND POUND

The Vikings are doing it

so far your right but there schedule is very weak and in time will lose out.

[kingJofNYC]

Re: CAN'T WIN IN THE NFL WITH THE GROUND AND POUND

Seahawks did it, rode Lynch and a generational D to a championship. That said, Wilson played well for them, he wasn't asked to carry the O, just do enough.

Its a passing league, and teams should pass, but every now and again someone will buck the trend. Bills were never setup to win with either style to be honest.

[mdcas22]

Re: CAN'T WIN IN THE NFL WITH THE GROUND AND POUND

Seahawks did it, rode Lynch and a generational D to a championship. That said, Wilson played well for them, he wasn't asked to carry the O, just do enough.

Its a passing league, and teams should pass, but every now and again someone will buck the trend. Bills were never setup to win with either style to be honest.

wilson threw for 26 td's vs lynch's 1300 yards rushing. they passed more than they get credit for in 2013.

actually lynch had 1250 and 12 td's that year.

[YardRat]

Re: CAN'T WIN IN THE NFL WITH THE GROUND AND POUND

wilson threw for 26 td's vs lynch's 1300 yards rushing. they passed more than they get credit for in 2013.

They were 26th in passing yardage in 2013, and 31st in attempts, so I'm not seeing exactly where they deserve more credit for throwing the ball.

[kingJofNYC]

Re: CAN'T WIN IN THE NFL WITH THE GROUND AND POUND

They were 26th in passing yardage in 2013, and 31st in attempts, so I'm not seeing exactly where they deserve more credit for throwing the ball.

Not only that but they basically passed in third and 5 or less. Kept distance manageable for Wilson. Saw some crazy numbers a while ago with regards to their situational passing, if I find the link I'll post it.

[mdcas22]

Re: CAN'T WIN IN THE NFL WITH THE GROUND AND POUND

Wilson was 16th in the league with 3300 yards so I don't no how they were 26th in the league.

they were 26th in total yards that year.

avg 26.9 att passing a game

avg 31 att rushing a game

[IlluminatusUIUC]

Re: CAN'T WIN IN THE NFL WITH THE GROUND AND POUND

You can win with ground and pound, but it's a very difficult proposition. You can't beat yourself with penalties, you can't get into a deep hole with bad defense, and you can't turn the ball over. That requires a hell of a lot more discipline then you'll get from a Ryan team.

[mdcas22]

Re: CAN'T WIN IN THE NFL WITH THE GROUND AND POUND

You can win with ground and pound, but it's a very difficult proposition. You can't beat yourself with penalties, you can't get into a deep hole with bad defense, and you can't turn the ball over. That requires a hell of a lot more discipline then you'll get from a Ryan team.

I think Rex thinks he is a great defensive mind when in fact he really isn't, he has had a couple of top 10 defense while in new York but never amounted to anything.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

Re: CAN'T WIN IN THE NFL WITH THE GROUND AND POUND

I think Rex thinks he is a great defensive mind when in fact he really isn't, he has had a couple of top 10 defense while in new York but never amounted to anything.

I've said it a couple times, Rex has never had an elite defense without a hall of famer in the secondary.

[mdcas22]

Re: CAN'T WIN IN THE NFL WITH THE GROUND AND POUND

I've said it a couple times, Rex has never had an elite defense without a hall of famer in the secondary.

and they got lucky 1 year and made it to the afc championship. Rex will dismantle this defense and rebuild it in his image.

[justasportsfan]

Re: CAN'T WIN IN THE NFL WITH THE GROUND AND POUND

You can if you had a dominant D and a QB who can occasionally make defenses pay when they stack the Los.

[mdcas22]

Re: CAN'T WIN IN THE NFL WITH THE GROUND AND POUND

You can if you had a dominant D and a QB who can occasionally make defenses pay when they stack the Los.

I want a QB that can thread the needle not wait for a wr to get 5 yards on his man before he throws it. although today TT did chuck it a couple of times to Sammy to make a play.