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  • Mahdi
    Registered User
    • Mar 2004
    • 10585

    BILLS in Good Spot right now

    Obviously a lot of folks are thinking that this whole thing is a disaster but I don't see it that way.

    This team was never going to make the playoffs anyway - Offense was not ready to be dominant and the changes on defense were too much to bear.

    And for those who said we should have left the defense as is, our defense last year was good statistically but in reality I remember all too often that defense getting burned when we really needed stops.

    The reasons I think the Bills are in a good situation are the following:

    1) We have an aggressive owner who saw first hand that this team needs change - he will be willing to go the extra mile to make things happen in the offseason

    2) Rex is pissed and he is a good coach who knows exactly which ingredients he needs to build the defense HIS way, which has always been successful. He will bring in linemen that we need. Certain he will bring in some big NTs and 5-tech DEs to fit the defense, combined with Hughes, Brown, Lawson and Jarius Wynn in the front 7 and our talent in the secondary he will have the D ready for next season.

    3) We have serious talent on offense and with another year playing together through mini camps and TC they should excel. I'm not Roman's biggest fan to be honest because I would rather have more traditional runs and more traditional throws. Everything is either shotgun with a sweep or shotgun deep ball. Where is the play-action bootleg? Basic crossing patterns, slants, skinny posts? Just seems a bit too gimmicky. Either way, another year in any system will get everyone playing better together.

    4) The left side of our OL has been good lately and if we can add a solid RT the line will actually be top notch.

    5) We should be able to free up some money and go after some FAs aggressively to fill spots where we need some leadership and talent.

    6) We will draft in the 15th spot give or take a couple of spots. There is always good players in the middle of the draft where you can select from players that fit your scheme rather than having to select certain players because they are ranked as top 5 or top 10 musts or selecting too late and missing out on talent. JJ Watt is a good example, OBJ also, Marcus Peters etc. See 2014 draft picks 12-20 (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2014)

    7) You do have some passionate football players in the locker room that want to win. Hughes was throwing furniture around on the sideline and Watkins is talking about getting rid of people who aren't doing their jobs. That's a good start IMO.

    I believe this team needs to go through the drastic changes Rex is talking about before they can be good.
  • Lucidvizion
    Surfing on the Edge of Infinity
    • Feb 2005
    • 2673

    #2
    Re: BILLS in Good Spot right now

    Rex is the reason this team sucks right now. The right move would be to kick him to the curb but that's never going to happen after a 5 year 27.5m dollar contract deal.

    Jets fans are laughing right now.

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    • SpikedLemonade
      • Jun 2024

      #3
      Re: BILLS in Good Spot right now

      I don't trust Rex and would not be building a team based on his systems.

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      • Buffalogic
        Rumblin' Stumblin' Bumblin'
        • Feb 2006
        • 5345

        #4
        Re: BILLS in Good Spot right now

        Jets missing the playoffs along with us. And they have lost to us like what, 4 out of 5 times now?

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        • Mahdi
          Registered User
          • Mar 2004
          • 10585

          #5
          Re: BILLS in Good Spot right now

          Originally posted by SpikedLemonade View Post
          I don't trust Rex and would not be building a team based on his systems.
          You don't trust Rex why?

          Because this year went badly on D? He obviously doesn't have the right players to fit his scheme so giving him another year to put it together seems logical. We don't have run stuffers which I think was actually his biggest mistake to be honest. He always ran his defenses with a big NT and for some reason he didn't see the need to get one this time around and it hurt us. He relied too much on the idea that we already had good enough linemen that could adapt. They couldn't.

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          • Joe Fo Sho
            Making Spirits Bright
            • Mar 2006
            • 6194

            #6
            Re: BILLS in Good Spot right now

            Originally posted by Mahdi View Post
            You don't trust Rex why?

            Because this year went badly on D? He obviously doesn't have the right players to fit his scheme so giving him another year to put it together seems logical. We don't have run stuffers which I think was actually his biggest mistake to be honest. He always ran his defenses with a big NT and for some reason he didn't see the need to get one this time around and it hurt us. He relied too much on the idea that we already had good enough linemen that could adapt. They couldn't.
            Most people are upset that Rex didn't fit the scheme to the players, instead of the other way around. I would have thought that one of the supposed best defensive minds in football would be able to put together a top 10 defense from a team that had a top 5 defense last year.

            I'm expecting Rex to be back and hopefully with a better scheme/better players to fit his scheme. I'm not going to get out my pitchfork just yet like most here are.

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            • Mahdi
              Registered User
              • Mar 2004
              • 10585

              #7
              Re: BILLS in Good Spot right now

              Originally posted by Joe Fo Sho View Post
              Most people are upset that Rex didn't fit the scheme to the players, instead of the other way around. I would have thought that one of the supposed best defensive minds in football would be able to put together a top 10 defense from a team that had a top 5 defense last year.

              I'm expecting Rex to be back and hopefully with a better scheme/better players to fit his scheme. I'm not going to get out my pitchfork just yet like most here are.
              I get that theory but from his point of view I see why he wouldn't do that.

              He has spent his entire coaching career coaching a certain brand of defense, calling plays, making halftime adjustments and using personnel all based on that defense. He knows it like the back of his hand. It makes no sense for him to start employing a new defense that he doesn't subscribe to.

              I would rather see a Rex D with the players that fit it.

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              • coastal
                Legendary Zoner
                • Mar 2005
                • 15513

                #8
                Re: BILLS in Good Spot right now

                16 years is "in a good spot"?

                The parking lot is strong in this one.

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                • MillsapsBillsFan
                  Registered User
                  • Mar 2015
                  • 625

                  #9
                  Re: BILLS in Good Spot right now

                  Originally posted by Mahdi View Post
                  I get that theory but from his point of view I see why he wouldn't do that.

                  He has spent his entire coaching career coaching a certain brand of defense, calling plays, making halftime adjustments and using personnel all based on that defense. He knows it like the back of his hand. It makes no sense for him to start employing a new defense that he doesn't subscribe to.

                  I would rather see a Rex D with the players that fit it.
                  This kind of thinking is insane to me. How is it that everyone expects players to change how they play to fit a scheme, but coaches can run whatever scheme they want and shouldn't be expected to change anything based on their personnel? Rex is considered a defensive genius, yet he cant be bothered to make changes to put the players he has right now into a position to succeed? Okay and Good coaches find players to fit their scheme, Great coaches (Rex is supposed to be a genius) change their scheme to fit players. I understand that now he will change to what has made him barely successful in the past, but I don't think its a problem to complain when our defensive head coach took the pieces of a top 5 defense and made them a well below average defense
                  That's on the coach, not the players

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                  • Mahdi
                    Registered User
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 10585

                    #10
                    Re: BILLS in Good Spot right now

                    Originally posted by coastal View Post
                    16 years is "in a good spot"?

                    The parking lot is strong in this one.
                    Evaluating the current situation using the previous 15 seasons is an emotional outlook and provides no use.

                    This view is based strictly on what we have now and the ownership and management in place. Whaley has done enough to stay. Although this offseason is the biggest in his career because he will need to manage the roster based on who the coach wants to keep and clear out.

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                    • trapezeus
                      Legendary Zoner
                      • Oct 2004
                      • 19525

                      #11
                      Re: BILLS in Good Spot right now

                      lost me when you said Rex is a good coach. a good coach figures out how to stop the penalty issue. A good coach can get to the two minute warning with 3 TO's more often than not. a good coach knows when to challenge a play. a good coach knows how to have his staff get a play in with more than 3 seconds on the play clock. a good coach knows to have batteries in the head set. a good coach knows how to take a talented roster on paper and make them relevant. A good coach gets something out of his players and not blame them. and a good coach has a must win game, and has his team show up and try to win.

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                      • Mahdi
                        Registered User
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 10585

                        #12
                        Re: BILLS in Good Spot right now

                        Originally posted by trapezeus View Post
                        lost me when you said Rex is a good coach. a good coach figures out how to stop the penalty issue. A good coach can get to the two minute warning with 3 TO's more often than not. a good coach knows when to challenge a play. a good coach knows how to have his staff get a play in with more than 3 seconds on the play clock. a good coach knows to have batteries in the head set. a good coach knows how to take a talented roster on paper and make them relevant. A good coach gets something out of his players and not blame them. and a good coach has a must win game, and has his team show up and try to win.
                        A lot of those things were out of his control and need overall cohesion to workout on game day.

                        Those things can be worked out for next season. Plus the challenge problem was not his fault because there should be someone in his ear telling him to challenge. That system failed and he changed it.

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                        • trapezeus
                          Legendary Zoner
                          • Oct 2004
                          • 19525

                          #13
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                          at this level, the coach needs to set up the command center and tell people what he wants. he wants a guy dedicated to replay and has the call down to him immediately. he has a battery guy. he has an OC who can get a play in quickly. he has a defense that buys into his system, or he adapts to the $250MM line he inherited. I liked the rex hire initially. I thought he was jobbed in NJ having only read the press. but he displayed complete cluelessness watching the game. Dick Jauron did more with less. that is a damning statement

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                          • DesertFox24
                            Registered User
                            • Jul 2005
                            • 2129

                            #14
                            Re: BILLS in Good Spot right now

                            Look had we not had this dark cloud of the playoff draught hanging over the franchisees head this would not really be an issue. Normally it takes until the second season to see what changes the new coach will bring. Unforunately for Rex we did not have an established QB and a def not a fit for his system

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                            • coastal
                              Legendary Zoner
                              • Mar 2005
                              • 15513

                              #15
                              Re: BILLS in Good Spot right now

                              Originally posted by Mahdi View Post
                              Evaluating the current situation using the previous 15 seasons is an emotional outlook and provides no use.

                              This view is based strictly on what we have now and the ownership and management in place. Whaley has done enough to stay. Although this offseason is the biggest in his career because he will need to manage the roster based on who the coach wants to keep and clear out.
                              douchebaggery this is...

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