Tank on!

[chernobylwraiths]

McGinn producing some... he will get a return at the trade deadline. No need to sink any money into him.

I say we run Lehner out there for the rest of the year no matter how he's playing. He's Murray's boy.. might as well ride and hope the light bulb goes on... but not until the end of the season...

Are there any other pieces we can move?

Gionta might get you a second rounder. Ennis possibly more. They have a few on defense that aren't worth much but a team looking for depth might give you something for Coliacavo and Weber. Only guys in Rochester that I can think might be depth guys or someone to trade would be Ruwhedle, Varrone, and even Kaleta. I don't have the desire to go back and spellcheck each one of those players.

[DetDannyWilliams]

Seriously... this team is clearly better than last year's sh1t show but they aren't making the playoffs.

another prize is waiting there in Matthews and some recent reports are saying that he's a better prospect than Eichel.

were bound to win one of these lotteries.

There are going to be three draws of lottery balls in this years lottery

Non-Playoff Team (Fewest Pts. to Most)	New Draft Lottery Odds	Odds Under Former Allocation
1	20.0%	25.0%
2	13.5%	18.8%
3	11.5%	14.2%
4	9.5%	10.7%
5	8.5%	8.1%
6	7.5%	6.2%
7	6.5%	4.7%
8	6.0%	3.6%
9	5.0%	2.7%
10	3.5%	2.1%
11	3.0%	1.5%
12	2.5%	1.1%
13	2.0%	0.8%
14	1.0%	0.5%

2016 NHL Draft Lottery
Beginning in 2016, the Draft Lottery will be utilized to assign the top three drafting slots in the NHL Draft, an expansion over previous years when the Draft Lottery was used to determine the winner of the first overall selection only.
Three draws will be held: the 1st Lottery draw will determine the Club selecting first overall, the 2nd Lottery draw will determine the Club selecting second overall and the 3rd Lottery draw will determine the club selecting third overall.
As a result of this change, the team earning the fewest points during the regular season will no longer be guaranteed, at worst, the second overall pick. That club could fall as low as fourth overall.
The allocation of odds for the 1st Lottery draw will be the same as outlined above for the 2015 NHL Draft Lottery. The odds for the remaining teams will increase on a proportionate basis for the 2nd Lottery draw, based on which Club wins the 1st Lottery draw, and again for the 3rd Lottery draw, based on which Club wins the 2nd Lottery draw.
The 11 Clubs not selected in the Draft Lottery will be assigned NHL Draft selections 4 through 14, in inverse order of regular-season points.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=728795

[Ginger Vitis]

I thought the Maple Leafs waited to long to get their rebuild and tank on but it appears I was wrong.. This Top 5 in 2016 is really looking good better than 2014 for sure.. And for a top 5 its looking like its deep enough that it wont be devastating not too get the No.1 overall pick....

[Crisis]

The top 6 on this team is really fine. The bottom 6 is a ****ing mess.

The sooner we can get rid of Gionta and Moulson the better.

With that said I still take Matthews if he's there, he's too good to pass up.

[Ingtar33]

goaltender is all that's standing between this team and the playoffs.

you could argue we're mostly a 2.5 line team as well, which is true. a few more nhl quality forwards would help, at least till we have 3 lines, 4 would be ideal, but we have what we have. so 2-4 average forwards, 2 average defensemen and a good nhl goaltender and we'd be competitive.

get a goaltender and we'd be right in the thick of it. right now we're getting mediocre to average play from that position, it's amazing we're as competitive as we are.

[Crisis]

goaltender is all that's standing between this team and the playoffs.

you could argue we're mostly a 2.5 line team as well, which is true. a few more nhl quality forwards would help, at least till we have 3 lines, 4 would be ideal, but we have what we have. so 2-4 average forwards, 2 average defensemen and a good nhl goaltender and we'd be competitive.

get a goaltender and we'd be right in the thick of it. right now we're getting mediocre to average play from that position, it's amazing we're as competitive as we are.

I don't think we're a goalie away from the playoffs. Realistically, how can you expect 3 players to carry the offense? ROR, Eichel, and Risto have done all the heavy lifting offensively for this team with little help. Girgensons finally being on Eichel's wing has got his game going at least, but this team needs a LOT more production out of atleast 2-3 of Ennis, Foligno, Larsson, Legwand, Gionta, Moulson, and Girgs.. I'll give Kane a pass for now but even he has been under producing on the score sheet (if he can somehow become a better/more willing passer that would improve his game tremendously). I don't expect much out of Legwand at this stage of his career and Des is fine as an energy 4th liner.

I mean, I like McGinn most of the time, but there's a problem when he's one of the best forwards on your team.

ROR and Risto are going to have career years offensively and we're still one of the lowest scoring teams in the league.

[coastal]

Second last place and one point from the basement...

So seriously... Matthews is very much in the radar.

[chernobylwraiths]

I believe this team will only get better and will finish somewhere between 6 - 8 from the bottom.

[Dr. Lecter]

goaltender is all that's standing between this team and the playoffs.

you could argue we're mostly a 2.5 line team as well, which is true. a few more nhl quality forwards would help, at least till we have 3 lines, 4 would be ideal, but we have what we have. so 2-4 average forwards, 2 average defensemen and a good nhl goaltender and we'd be competitive.

get a goaltender and we'd be right in the thick of it. right now we're getting mediocre to average play from that position, it's amazing we're as competitive as we are.

How many games have they scored one goal this year?

Blaming their record on a general lack of goaltending is wrong. There's no nice way to say other wise. They're 28th in the NHL in goals scored per game

But the goaltending is the problem

Come on.

[swiper]

There is no way that Gionta is going to get you a second.

[DetDannyWilliams]

do me a favor, read this and compare it to how the Sabres are doing the rebuild it sounds to me that Murray is doing it the same way the Blues did their rebuild.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Louis_Blues#Playoff_streak_ends.3B_rebuild_begins_.282005.E2.80.9310.29

[SpikedLemonade]

do me a favor, read this and compare it to how the Sabres are doing the rebuild it sounds to me that Murray is doing it the same way the Blues did their rebuild.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Louis_Blues#Playoff_streak_ends.3B_rebuild_begins_.282005.E2.80.9310.29

AND probably will be just as successful in the end.

All the pain of losing without the big win in the end.

[coastal]

Another loss!!!!

go Pegula's culture of winning!

[Ginger Vitis]

Craig Button post junior tournament mock... He has Laine going 2nd and Puljujarvi going 3rd... Jacob Chychrun drops to 6th and Olli Juolevi is at 7..if you go strictly by the standings the sabres would be picking 2nd overall right now.... Button echoed what others are saying..Eichel and Laine together would be dynamite..

http://www.tsn.ca/button-s-post-worl...draft-1.418389

[swiper]

How many games have they scored one goal this year?

Blaming their record on a general lack of goaltending is wrong. There's no nice way to say other wise. They're 28th in the NHL in goals scored per game

But the goaltending is the problem

Come on.

Agree with this, but can someone tell me why we let Michal Neuvirth get away? He's top ten in GAA. Would be better than what they have now, no?

[coastal]

Agree with this, but can someone tell me why we let Michal Neuvirth get away? He's top ten in GAA. Would be better than what they have now, no?

I can tell you exactly why.... he wasn't Tim Murray's boy! That would be the guy who hasn't played a game yet this season that we had to give up a first round pick for... when no one else probably would have given him anything above a second or third for the guy.

[swiper]

The top 6 on this team is really fine.

LOLOLOLOLOL. Really?????

In Buffalo’s five losses it’s scored seven goals. Overall they’re 27^th in the NHL in goal scoring.

http://www.wgr550.com/Sabres-try-to-...slump/22349313

[Crisis]

LOLOLOLOLOL. Really?????



http://www.wgr550.com/Sabres-try-to-...slump/22349313

Yeah, because they have zero secondary scoring.

Gionta, Moulson, Legwand, Zemgus, Foligno, Des, and Larsson have 19 goals between them.

The top 6 is comparatively fine. Ennis not being useless would solve a lot of the problems in the top 6. An upgrade over McGinn would be nice, as is another winger for Eichel. But compared to the trash that rounds out the bottom half of the forwards right now? Yeah, it's fine.

And yeah, I'm counting Gionta as a bottom 6 player because that's where he belongs. He needs to get the hell away from Eichel.

[DetDannyWilliams]

Yeah, because they have zero secondary scoring.

Gionta, Moulson, Legwand, Zemgus, Foligno, Des, and Larsson have 19 goals between them.

The top 6 is comparatively fine. Ennis not being useless would solve a lot of the problems in the top 6. An upgrade over McGinn would be nice, as is another winger for Eichel. But compared to the trash that rounds out the bottom half of the forwards right now? Yeah, it's fine.

And yeah, I'm counting Gionta as a bottom 6 player because that's where he belongs. He needs to get the hell away from Eichel.

I think look at Gionta is here to be a player/coach on the ice. same role Matty Ellis plays down in Rochester

[swiper]

Gionta is useless. So is Ennis. McGinn is better than given credit for.