What did I miss? Did they move the Habs game up?Originally Posted by Swiper
What did I miss? Did they move the Habs game up?
Lehner's history. He just doesn't know it yet.
Yeah, again. Sabres aren't tanking this season. Your ignorance is showing.
Don't forget Johnson... he can be moved too!
and jamjam... Organizational culture change happens because someone flipped a page on the calendar?
There's a difference between losing and tanking. Sabres aren't tanking.
U didn't answer my question
If the Sabres are tanking, what are your Leafs doing?
I'm sorry... did I miss the fire sale?
No. I haven't seen anything like that. Why?
Because your question doesn't address the tanking claim your mental midget sidekick keeps droning on about.
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No, but they did trade away their biggest star, whose contract wasn't even expiring.
it addresses the inherent problem of an organization who claims to be about winning a Cup, but choose intentional losing as one of the means of getting there.
because said star didn't fit in with Babcock's and Shanahan's culture of winning... not in an effort to finish in last place in the hopes of drafting McJesus.No, but they did trade away their biggest star, whose contract wasn't even expiring.
Last edited by coastal; 02-03-2016 at 10:57 AM.
you're the one who drew the parallel to the Leafs... and you're asking me why?
The sabres trading away expiring contracts wasn't in hopes of drafting mc jesus either. They were expiring. They got something for them. Not a hard concept to figure out.
I don't think anyone with any true knowledge of the sport expected the sabres to make the playoffs this year. The fact is, they are lightyears better than they were from 13-15. And still have lightyears to go. The process is clearing heading in the right direction with plenty of work left. So what's the problem?
if you aren't willing to accept that that's exactly what happened, then there is no point in discussing this any further.
Keeping pysyk in rochester last year? Tanking. Trading away vanek, ott, miller, stafford, ect who weren't coming back for assets and picks? Not tanking. Trading away expiring contracts for assets is not an uncommon tactic. It's one every team employs. So, yes, I'd say using that example is pretty poor.
Not sure why this method is being questioned now when it's a universal occurrence. In every sport.
You say parallel, I say contrast. I never even implied the Leafs were tanking.
JATM brought up the Kessel trade. I don't think it's a tank move. Kessel is a guy that wears on a team and he wore through for the Leafs. They got some good prospects and some nice picks. It's a good move.
In the past year, the Sabres have also made a lot of nice moves and they are greatly improved. One of those nice moves was to get a possible starting goalie in Lehner who unfortunately has missed most off the season. Despite that, the Sabres are greatly improved over last season. This is objective fact (projecting at +18 in the standings) and obvious to even the most casual fan. Persisting with this tank garbage is not doing you any favors and only makes you look like a troll like Spike. You're better than that.
JATMtheJATM (02-03-2016)
You're missing the point... at what point did the Sabres decide to embrace a culture of winning? Can you pinpoint it or has it been in place since Pegula put that BS up by the lockeroom?
I'm not missing the point because you haven't made any point. The Sabres are not tanking this year. But by all means, hold tight to your position. Give not an inch. Ever. Even when you are wrong.
I have begun my point, but you and the adolescent jamjam won't answer questions.
Because we are talking about tanking. It's going to take time to remove the culture of losing. But the tank is gone. And the sabres are improving, and the sabres have a good coach. Not a place holder like nolan.
Yeah. He's really making an impact.
coastal (02-03-2016)
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