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    Re: PFF Draft Grades - Winners and Losers

    Jones has a cannon for an arm and he’s worth a developmental shot, even though his accuracy between six and 30 yards is among the worst in the class.

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    Re: PFF Draft Grades - Winners and Losers

    Quote Originally Posted by YardRat View Post
    Jones has a cannon for an arm and he’s worth a developmental shot, even though his accuracy between six and 30 yards is among the worst in the class.

    Well, that's a little troubling.
    Well it shouldn't be, he was a 4th round pick. Not a 1st or a second. He's not going to be counted on anytime soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jry44 View Post
    Well it shouldn't be, he was a 4th round pick. Not a 1st or a second. He's not going to be counted on anytime soon.
    Yeah, it should be, especially if you're one of those "EJ is trash because accuracy can't be taught" guys. Those are the throws that make the difference between 'keeper' and 'pretender' at the QB position.

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    How do they measure for accuracy because his completion % was fine? Jones' overall completion% was 61.7%, and he put up his highest% his junior year at 62.3%.

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    Not sure how 80% of the league can grade out at B- or better. Just a mild gripe.

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    Re: PFF Draft Grades - Winners and Losers

    Quote Originally Posted by sahlensguy View Post
    How do they measure for accuracy because his completion % was fine? Jones' overall completion% was 61.7%, and he put up his highest% his junior year at 62.3%.
    I don't know. EJ was completing 60% for a while. Then you get a 5 yard out sail over a guys head or a screen pass hit the ground. I guess it's consistency. What I've read is when Jones was just playing and not think in 2014 he was phenomenal. In 2015, when he was named the starter and they worked on mechanics he took a dive. Now, I might get killed for this, but, Tim Tebow comes to mind after reading this. He's a guy that is at his best when he's playing like he's on a sandlot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sudzy View Post
    I don't know. EJ was completing 60% for a while. Then you get a 5 yard out sail over a guys head or a screen pass hit the ground. I guess it's consistency. What I've read is when Jones was just playing and not think in 2014 he was phenomenal. In 2015, when he was named the starter and they worked on mechanics he took a dive. Now, I might get killed for this, but, Tim Tebow comes to mind after reading this. He's a guy that is at his best when he's playing like he's on a sandlot.
    EJ is at his best playing sandst too, just sayin. Accuracy may come down to, not completion %, but actually hitting redirects on target and in stride. IDK. Jones may not be able to hit a crossing pattern without getting the wr killed to save his life. It's a 4th round pick,so worth the shot I guess.

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    Total waste of pick. The guy is basically Jamarcus Russell without all the hype.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DynaPaul View Post
    The guy is basically Jamarcus Russell without all the hype.
    Russell might be a Bill by the end of next week. He fits the mold.

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    Re: PFF Draft Grades - Winners and Losers

    PFF flounders on Bills grade.

    Round 1 - take guy with bum shoulder

    Round 2 - take LB that can't cover in the emerging NFL pass game

    Round 3 - take Corbin Bryant's twin

    THEN the GM feels obliged to get some offense reacting by taking the worst QB that was drafted, a RB (why another?) and a WR.

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    Re: PFF Draft Grades - Winners and Losers

    Quote Originally Posted by YardRat View Post
    Yeah, it should be, especially if you're one of those "EJ is trash because accuracy can't be taught" guys. Those are the throws that make the difference between 'keeper' and 'pretender' at the QB position.
    No, it shouldn't be. He's a 4th round, closer 5th round pick. Stop acting like every draft pick is going to eventually start. I get that there are exceptions, but 4th round picks are almost never counted on to be immediate starters. They're projects. I'm not a huge Cardale Jones fan, but I don't think that taking him with the last pick of the 4th round, given accuracy issues is a big deal, thus why he's basically a 5th round pick!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jry44 View Post
    No, it shouldn't be. He's a 4th round, closer 5th round pick. Stop acting like every draft pick is going to eventually start. I get that there are exceptions, but 4th round picks are almost never counted on to be immediate starters. They're projects. I'm not a huge Cardale Jones fan, but I don't think that taking him with the last pick of the 4th round, given accuracy issues is a big deal, thus why he's basically a 5th round pick!
    STUPID. That is EXACTLY the expectation. IF you don't think that each and every pick is eventually going to start then pick someone else. Stupidest post ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sahlensguy View Post
    Not sure how 80% of the league can grade out at B- or better. Just a mild gripe.
    I can see you haven't attended school in the past 30 or so years...everybody is above average and gets a trophy.
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    Bengals had an excellent draft. Giving the Bills the same grade as the Bengals shows the failure of PFF.

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    lol. Some people find reasons to complain and will never be happy. We drafted cardale in the fourth how many fours even play on all teams. We will bring qb bus next year but we needed a developmental guy and his ceiling is higher than any other day 3.

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    Re: PFF Draft Grades - Winners and Losers

    Quote Originally Posted by stuckincincy View Post
    I can see you haven't attended school in the past 30 or so years...everybody is above average and gets a trophy.
    How soon before everybody makes the playoffs?

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    Jones was 11-0 at a big time school. Worth a 4th round flyer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jry44 View Post
    No, it shouldn't be. He's a 4th round, closer 5th round pick. Stop acting like every draft pick is going to eventually start. I get that there are exceptions, but 4th round picks are almost never counted on to be immediate starters. They're projects. I'm not a huge Cardale Jones fan, but I don't think that taking him with the last pick of the 4th round, given accuracy issues is a big deal, thus why he's basically a 5th round pick!
    Is it too much to ask that a project drafted in the fourth or fifth round and may never develop into a starter but hold a role as a back-up not have accuracy issues on the most important throws in the game? I'm certainly willing to give Jones some leash but there were other guys out there that could have been given the same shot.

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    Re: PFF Draft Grades - Winners and Losers

    Cardale jones seems like ej but drafted in the right spot and most likely not playing his first year.

    Hes a likeable kid but it's a long shot that he can deliver consistency. But in his case he won't be asked to do it early.

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