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    Who else wish we passed on Shaq,

    ...who seems like a cheap man's Mario?

    Evidently Dallas tried to trade up, swapping thier 2nd and Seattle's 2nd and third to do so.

    With Dallas' 2nd round pick we could have taken Ragland outright, saving us the 2 4ths we sealed to trade up to get him.

    Essentially, Lawson cost us Seattle's 2nd and 3rd and our 2 4ths and our own 2nd round pic.

    That's a haul for Lawson.

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    Re: Who else wish we passed on Shaq,

    What?

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    Re: Who else wish we passed on Shaq,

    Don't feed the trolls.
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    Re: Who else wish we passed on Shaq,

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeInRoch View Post
    Don't feed the trolls.
    Hehehe.

    But those are a ton of pics to give up for a team that had plenty of holes.

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    Re: Who else wish we passed on Shaq,

    I'm OK with the pick he was on my wish list. More frustrated that they completely ignored oline and didn't grab a safety.
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    Re: Who else wish we passed on Shaq,

    Quote Originally Posted by sahlensguy View Post
    ...who seems like a cheap man's Mario?

    Evidently Dallas tried to trade up, swapping thier 2nd and Seattle's 2nd and third to do so.

    With Dallas' 2nd round pick we could have taken Ragland outright, saving us the 2 4ths we sealed to trade up to get him.

    Essentially, Lawson cost us Seattle's 2nd and 3rd and our 2 4ths and our own 2nd round pic.

    That's a haul for Lawson.
    I kind of understand what your asking. But, where does Seattle's 2nd come in? Dallas had 1 pick in the 2nd and 1 pick in the 3rd. And my understanding is that is all Jones offered. Hat's off to Whaley for telling him to shove it then. But,if we would have taken the deal we could have had Ragland and Reed in the 2nd, picked from DEs Calhoun, Kaufusi or Ngakoue with Dallas 3rd, freeing up our 3rd for another spot. Prescott with our 4th. I don't know Shaq and Washington vs Reed and 2 3rds? In hide sight, getting a QB that can play in the next 2 years might have been the biggest reason to make the trade.

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    Re: Who else wish we passed on Shaq,

    I'm happy with all of the picks except Cardale. I thought we should have gotten someone for the right side of the line somewhere along the line but it was never addressed in the draft.

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    Re: Who else wish we passed on Shaq,

    This is a "what if" kind of guessing scenario involving Dallas supposedly wanting to trade back into the 1st. It just didn't happen this way. He says "evidently" but there is nothing out there to provide any evidence this was real.

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    Re: Who else wish we passed on Shaq,

    Quote Originally Posted by sahlensguy View Post
    ...who seems like a cheap man's Mario?
    Cheap man's Mario?

    I don't think that Lawson will get as many sacks. Having said that, they are very different athletes. Lawson looks like he will be much better against the run.

    And, Lawson looks to provide leadership - something that Mario has seldom, if ever displayed.

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    Re: Who else wish we passed on Shaq,

    So that's why the Cowboys grabbed Cook. Payback


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    Re: Who else wish we passed on Shaq,

    Quote Originally Posted by DynaPaul View Post
    I'm happy with all of the picks except Cardale. I thought we should have gotten someone for the right side of the line somewhere along the line but it was never addressed in the draft.
    Rex was so defensophilic with the Jets, his drafts failed like this one will. He built no offense through the draft.

    Yesterday Whaley went all-in on defense at the top of the draft, trading away the middle of their draft to get the 3rd question-mark DT. Then when he got to go to the podium in the 5th (let's face it that was the 5th, not the 4th) he felt that he MUST go offense taking the biggest piece of QB waste in the draft. It's a joke. PREDICTION: Roman & Chris Palmer get pissed and leave.
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    Re: Who else wish we passed on Shaq,

    Has anyone watched Lawson? My daughter goes to Clemson and I can tell you that he's a great pick and an excellent player.

    We are lucky he fell to us so people should stop the *****ing.

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    Re: Who else wish we passed on Shaq,

    Quote Originally Posted by Swiper View Post
    Rex was so defensophilic with the Jets, his drafts failed like this one will. He built no offense through the draft.

    Yesterday Whaley went all-in on defense at the top of the draft, trading away the middle of their draft to get the 3rd question-mark DT. Then when he got to go to the podium in the 5th (let's face it that was the 5th, not the 4th) he felt that he MUST go offense taking the biggest piece of QB waste in the draft. It's a joke. PREDICTION: Roman & Chris Palmer get pissed and leave.
    You do know the year prior we addressed offense right? 4/6 picks were offense and we signed Taylor, McCoy, Clay and Incognito ........we do people ignore that fact when trying to validate their weak ass points?
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    Re: Who else wish we passed on Shaq,

    Quote Originally Posted by justasportsfan View Post
    So that's why the Cowboys grabbed Cook. Payback

    it was no secret Dallas was looking for a QB going into this draft... Cook was selected to be selected, not because Jerry doesn't like Terry, and was trying to decrease the value of his franchise by not allowing him and the war room to select a QB he had passed on over and over again
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    Re: Who else wish we passed on Shaq,

    Dallas didn't select Cook Oakland did. Dallas took Prescott.

    I don't know why people just don't look at justa's posts and assume that it's wrong.
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    Re: Who else wish we passed on Shaq,

    The doom and gloomers have the player prospects failing even before a mini camp.

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    Re: Who else wish we passed on Shaq,

    Quote Originally Posted by Shady25 View Post
    it was no secret Dallas was looking for a QB going into this draft... Cook was selected to be selected, not because Jerry doesn't like Terry, and was trying to decrease the value of his franchise by not allowing him and the war room to select a QB he had passed on over and over again
    The smiley meant I was kidding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Lecter View Post
    Dallas didn't select Cook Oakland did. Dallas took Prescott.

    I don't know why people just don't look at justa's posts and assume that it's wrong.
    Thanks for the correction princess.

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    Re: Who else wish we passed on Shaq,

    Quote Originally Posted by pmoon6 View Post
    The doom and gloomers have the player prospects failing even before a mini camp.
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    Re: Who else wish we passed on Shaq,

    I was delighted with Lawson, think he was the best DE available, most solid, fewest drawbacks, didn't think he'd be there.

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    Re: Who else wish we passed on Shaq,

    Quote Originally Posted by Mace View Post
    I was delighted with Lawson, think he was the best DE available, most solid, fewest drawbacks, didn't think he'd be there.

    you said it DE but he will be playing linebacker at 268 ibs, thats what scares me, the bills always think they are smarter than everyone else, draft a guard make him a tackle, draft a DE make him a linebacker and it never seems to work. Jerry Hughes was forced to play Linebacker in the 3-4 at indy and he got run out of town, the bills let him be a pure pass rusher that's why the success in Buffalo. all's we can do is wait and see.

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