The 2013 Draft-after three full seasons

[ghz in pittsburgh]

I'm a little torn on the QB situation in Buffalo. If you ask me, the Bills just missed the big hook they had with the Dallas trade. Had Jerry Jones bite the 1st round pick (which he really should if he truly wants Lynch), the Bills would have the Cowboys 2017 1st pick that in my opinion, a likely top 10 pick with a 36 year injury prone (and play style Prone) Romo. A great chance for the Bills to pick a top flight QB prospect.

Watching Whaley, I think his tone has not been averting drafting QBs every year, but rather he's more inclined to stick with the draft value. I truly believe with the inevitable departure of EJ next year, they will draft another QB. I just don't agree with Whaley's philosophy of a Buffalo QB must have strong arms. How's Brady workout in NE where the weather condition is not much better? To me a QB who has upside reading defense and being accurate should outweigh everything else.

[Buffalogic]

Horrible draft but 2013 was a bust fest

[YardRat]

I hadn't seen anything where Dallas was offering their '17 first rounder to move up. Did they really?

[ghz in pittsburgh]

I hadn't seen anything where Dallas was offering their '17 first rounder to move up. Did they really?

No they didn't. But Buffalo demanded. Reportedly Jerry Jones regretted that he didn't over pay.

Didn't the Bills paid Dalls similar package to draft Losman?

[YardRat]

No they didn't. But Buffalo demanded. Reportedly Jerry Jones regretted that he didn't over pay.

Didn't the Bills paid Dalls similar package to draft Losman?

Well, yeah, but if Dallas never actually put that pick on the table it's a moot point.

[gebobs]

Woods is a marginal #2 at that. Really a #3 or #4 but a #2 on this team.

I would like to have Hopkins back now.

The Bills signed UGA kicker Marshall Morgan. Of course, he sucks.

[gebobs]

As much as running backs are a dime a dozen in this league, outside of AP, we completely fleeced Philly on that trade.

Wasn't it really a salary dump on Philly's part?

[k-oneputt]

The Bills signed UGA kicker Marshall Morgan. Of course, he sucks.

Well since you are from Atlanta that should make you an expert on him and all the Georgia players. Why don't you give us a rundown on his strengths and weaknesses.
Personally I didn't think he was anything special but if he is capable of killing two birds with one stone I'm all for it.

[gebobs]

Well since you are from Atlanta that should make you an expert on him and all the Georgia players. Why don't you give us a rundown on his strengths and weaknesses.
Personally I didn't think he was anything special but if he is capable of killing two birds with one stone I'm all for it.

Let me get this straight. You don't think he's "anything special" yet you saw fit to sarcastically call me an "expert" because I gave my own same opinion. Is there some reason you needed to get in that dig?

[k-oneputt]

So we got a free agent kicker who "sucks" ?
Just checking.

[gebobs]

So we got a free agent kicker who "sucks" ?
Just checking.

I really don't see the point in what you are trying to do here. If all you want to say is this basically a free roll of the dice, then why don't you just come out and say it?

Unless his leg strength improves markedly by August, he's going to be a free agent come game day. He missed half his FGs from 40-49 last year alone. He's going to be selling used cars back in Fort Lauderdale by October.

At least they didn't trade up to take a kicker in the second round like Tampa. That was a head scratcher.

[YardRat]

So we got a free agent kicker who "sucks" ?
Just checking.

Considering how few get drafted, there is room for that distinction.

[k-oneputt]

Since you were reply to my take I thought you were saying I think he sucks, and actually I really don't think much of him.
But as stated if he can take over both kicking jobs I'm all for it.

[swiper]

F

[feldspar]

So Kelvin Sheppard should be considered a good draft pick because they traded him for Hughes?

Why not?

[DraftBoy]

Why not?

Because he's horrible.

Making a good pick and flipping a bad pick are two entirely different moves.

[gebobs]

Since you were reply to my take I thought you were saying I think he sucks, and actually I really don't think much of him.
But as stated if he can take over both kicking jobs I'm all for it.

For the record, I'm with you on Dustin Hopkins but this guy is not that good. He'll never start for the Bills or even be a kickoff specialist. He'll be among the first cuts.

[Mace]

I just don't agree with Whaley's philosophy of a Buffalo QB must have strong arms. How's Brady workout in NE where the weather condition is not much better? To me a QB who has upside reading defense and being accurate should outweigh everything else.

Brady looks like he has a pretty good arm to me. Noodle armed QB's get you Fitzs & Penningtons trying so hard to get the ball where they can't when they have to. Kind of hard not wanting a strong armed passer, because well, he has to pass, and we sort of have a Watkins that can run pretty far pretty fast.

[BuffaloRedleg]

Kiko was a great find, Woods is replaceable and the rest are below average.

I'm not going to sit here and fault the EJ pick.

I remember the heated discussions that year in preparation for the draft, none of us knew wtf to do.

All I knew is that first pick had to be a QB, and they took the one they thought would be best.

Turns out they were all bad. That's how she goes sometimes.

[ghz in pittsburgh]

Brady looks like he has a pretty good arm to me. Noodle armed QB's get you Fitzs & Penningtons trying so hard to get the ball where they can't when they have to. Kind of hard not wanting a strong armed passer, because well, he has to pass, and we sort of have a Watkins that can run pretty far pretty fast.

Not when he's drafted and not when he replaced Bledsoe. Brady's adequate arm more or less developed in his 3rd/th year in NFL