You seem to be under some delusion he's some kind of elite talent. They Pro Bowl is a joke and yet he hasn't been named, heck, Taylor was the 234234234 alternate and we have people on this board getting all wet over that.Originally Posted by MikeInRoch
Can you tell me how many times he has been named All-Pro? You know, the one reserved for truly elite talent, only those guys deserve big contracts. I'll wait for your answer...
You have no clue how economics work in the NFL in 2016...
So this proves that he's not in the top 2 at his position. I don't think there's a single person here that's willing to argue that he is.
If we let Glenn walk, and he were to sign a deal like this with another team, this place would be in uproar that we let another left tackle get away from us.
I don't recall ever seeing Mike use the Pro Bowl to boost Taylor, so that argument is empty.
The guy from the saints just signed the same deal. I think Cordy is better.
I'd take Armstead in all honesty. Younger and better athlete.
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EDS (05-05-2016)
I haven't watched any Saints games lately, but from what I hear Armstead is a stud. I haven't heard anyone talk about Glenn the way people talk about Armstead. I was actually a little disappointed when I saw that we paid them the same amount, but that's the breaks.
He's also had only one OC, Glenn has had three. I'd like to see what Glenn (and everyone else, really) could do with some consistency.
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I agree with those who are saying we overpaid for him. On the other hand, if you're going to overpay for someone, it's best to overpay for your core players. Glenn is a core player. Better to give him maybe a little bigger contract than he deserves, than to let him walk.
psubills62 (05-05-2016),Victor7 (05-06-2016)
Very good point.
Can't see Glenn, or any of them, not improving with consistency at the OC.
I hope they've thrown away Kromer's beach chairs as well.
IlluminatusUIUC (05-06-2016)
You seem to be under some delusion that I actually said that.
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Dr. Lecter (05-06-2016),Mace (05-06-2016)
Glenn might not be the 2nd best LT in the league but he is the best option the Bills have, he still is young and the contract seems high but it truly isn't. for once the Bills are trying to keep they're core players.
X-Era (05-06-2016)
Did we overpay ?? Yeah we did. That's just how it works in the NFL these days. Next year we will probably over pay for Gilmore as well. The current free agents get the biggest deals whether they are the best at their positions or not. I bet if we listed the top 3 paid players per position they wouldn't be the top 3 players at it. Its just how it works.
Better to overpay for your own home grown talent than to let him walk and create a massive hole.
sudzy (05-07-2016)
Has OPIV read this thread Lol he thought it was impossible that the Bills and Glenn would agree to a extension before training camp
Just to add to what I've written earlier: if you're going to overpay a player, you'd better make sure he's the best, most valuable player on his unit. If (for example) you overpay your third best defensive lineman, then your best and second-best defensive linemen are going to want raises, too. If your fourth-best defensive lineman isn't that far behind #3, then he might also want a raise.
The nice thing about Glenn is that he's by far the most valuable offensive lineman. I don't see how anyone else on the offensive line can possibly use his contract as an example. This is far more likely an example of overpaying one guy only, than a situation where overpaying one guy forces you to overpay several.
Some more details about Glenn's deal. They saved $7.5 mil in cap space this season.
From Mike Rodak:
"The Bills have gained about $7.5 million in 2016 cap room by signing LT Cordy Glenn to a five-year deal. Buffalo now has $14.207 million in cap room, per NFLPA records."
"As part of his five-year extension with the Bills signed this week, LT Cordy Glenn received a $16 million signing bonus. His base salaries: $3 million (2016), $9 million (2017), $9.25 million (2018), $7.25 million (2019), $7.5 million (2020). He is also due roster bonuses of $2 million annually from 2017 through 2020."
So his cap hit for '16 is $6.2 mil, which is about $800k-$1.8mil less than I expected. Cool. Next year, however, that jumps to $12.7mil ($9mil salary, $3.2mil prorated from signing bonus, $500k prorated from roster bonus).
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X-Era (05-07-2016)
If I read that right, he gets a $2 mil roster bonus each year, so 2017 would be 14.2 mil.
I'm assuming that the roster bonuses are guaranteed considering the reports of total guaranteed money, which would qualify the reporting bonuses to be treated as a 'signing bonus' and prorated for the rest of the life of the contract.
Page 94 of the CBA (page 109 of the pdf)...
https://nfllabor.files.wordpress.com...-2011-2020.pdf
Mace (05-07-2016)
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