Whaley started the internet on fire today

[OpIv37]

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Er...the team sells out year after year. Let's not feign indignity...

Hence the Brandon comment. He's never had any interest in building a winner. He's only interested in creating the illusion of a winner to play off the passion and loyalty of Bills fans.

[OpIv37]

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The only problem is yours, and how you chose to take what he said...and then project all this crap.

He was not wrong.

What he said was not wrong. He makes money off of something that he feels hurts people by his own admission. That has nothing to do with any choice or projection by me- it's the reality and that's what's wrong.

[feldspar]

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What he said was not wrong. He makes money off of something that he feels hurts people by his own admission. That has nothing to do with any choice or projection by me- it's the reality and that's what's wrong.

Anybody with two brain cells knows what he said is true. That includes 31 other GMs, whether they say it or not, it's an obvious truth, universally recognized by everyone.

Maybe the problem is with this new-fangled sound-byte society, where everything is hyper-analyzed by people who are too much of a hurry to think things through, and people are expected to talk out of their ass more and more instead of just telling the truth.

So you're saying that you have a problem with him telling the truth? Or is it that he shouldn't TELL the truth? Because, at this point of the conversation, I'm getting the idea that you want NFL GMs to not give a rat's ass about the truth. Should they not care about the players or have a perspective on the beast? What?

[IlluminatusUIUC]

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He was defending Watkins by pointing out that football is violent and injuries happen. People are going nuts with the hot takes here.

[OpIv37]

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Anybody with two brain cells knows what he said is true. That includes 31 other GMs, whether they say it or not, it's an obvious truth, universally recognized by everyone.

Maybe the problem is with this new-tangled sound-byte society, where everything is hyper-analyzed by people who are too much of a hurry to think things through, and people are expected to talk out of their ass more and more instead of just telling the truth.

So you're saying that you have a problem with him telling the truth? Or is it that he shouldn't TELL the truth? Because, at this point of the conversation, I'm getting the idea that you want. NFL GMs to not give a rat's ass about the truth. Should they not care about the players or have a perspective on the beast? What?

Huh? How can something be "hyper-analyized" by people too busy to think things through? I don't think you know what "hyper" or "analyze" actually mean, because people incapable of thinking things through can't analyze by definition.

Anyone who agrees with Whaley but makes money off of football is admitting to making money off of something that is harmful. Yeah, it's the truth. But it's a truth that makes them despicable human beings. I'm not sure why you think being truthful about being a despicable human being is so much better than lying about being a despicable human being.

[OpIv37]

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He was defending Watkins by pointing out that football is violent and injuries happen. People are going nuts with the hot takes here.

Exact Whaley quote: "It's a violent game that I personally don't think humans are supposed to play."

Nothing in that statement has anything to do with defending Watkins. It's a general statement and a very damning one.

[Figster]

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What he said was not wrong. He makes money off of something that he feels hurts people by his own admission. That has nothing to do with any choice or projection by me- it's the reality and that's what's wrong.

We live in a world that is entertained by violence and destruction. Athletes are payed to perform these acts of violence to entertain us. Its no secret man is not made to get punched in the face yet millions of dollars is won or lost every day humans inflicting bodily harm on other humans.

Do you realize how many occupations are in one form or another dangerous to somebody's health?

[Generalissimus Gibby]

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This organization is just getting more bizarre by the day.

When they hired Rex I knew we were heading towards being a reality show. Now this team is its own version of MTV

[The Jokeman]

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Hence the Brandon comment. He's never had any interest in building a winner. He's only interested in creating the illusion of a winner to play off the passion and loyalty of Bills fans.

Brandon is the marketing guy so what you just described of selling this team to fans to buy into this team is his job!

[OpIv37]

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Brandon is the marketing guy so what you just described of selling this team to fans to buy into this team is his job!

Yeah but he gets the fans to buy into teams that aren't worth buying into. He's a snake oil salesman: spend as little as possible on the product on the field while convincing fans it's worth buying.

[OpIv37]

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We live in a world that is entertained by violence and destruction. Athletes are payed to perform these acts of violence to entertain us. Its no secret man is not made to get punched in the face yet millions of dollars is won or lost every day humans inflicting bodily harm on other humans.

Do you realize how many occupations are in one form or another dangerous to somebody's health?

All of that is true. None of it excuses Whaley for making money off of something he admits is harmful to people.

[Joe Fo Sho]

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the problem isn't that he spoke an unpleasant truth. The problem is that he understands the unpleasant truth but chooses to make money off of it anyway. If he had any moral compass, the unpleasant truth would have compelled him into another line of work.

Moral compass? Please.

By this logic the President of GM should also be fired and no one should replace him. The automotive industry should be shut down due to vehicle emissions and risk of injury. Vehicles are responsible for far more injuries/deaths than the NFL. Humans are not meant to drive cars. They're also not meant to fight in the UFC or even eat french fries for that matter. Why does everyone have to be responsible for the actions of others all of the sudden? If you don't want to risk injury, don't play in the NFL. If you are willing to risk physical damage to your body/brain, Doug might be willing to give you a paycheck. Big deal.

To think anything negative about Whaley's comments is just finding another reason to moan and ache about the Bills.

I design industrial machines that are installed in factories all over the world. Many of them are in 3rd world countries obviously, because of the labor costs. I'm not the one who decides where the machines are installed, who we sell them to, and I don't have any control over the factories working conditions. Should I feel responsible for the workers who don't make a livable wage who work 16 hours a day in poor conditions? Should I quit and join the Red Cross?

[trapezeus]

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I am not a whaley apologist(he can build a d, but he can't build a team), but his statement out of context is misleading. he was making the point that missing 3 games in 2 seasons isn't a lot. its a brutal game. and he has a point that guys that play 16 full games year in and yr out are minorities.

his phrasing was awful.

[Mahdi]

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http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/fo...icle-1.2648308

"A question about Sammy Watkins, who is recovering from a broken foot, made Bills GM Doug Whaley turn philosophical about the sport he's involved in.

"This is the game of football," Whaley told WGR 550 radio on Tuesday. "Injuries are part of it. It's a violent game that I personally don't think humans are supposed to play."

Whaley's comment is very honest and very fair...

Many people including football players have said similar comments in the past.

What Whaley is getting at here is that football is a game that the human body will always take a beating from because the collisions are violent and our body's are not made of steel. It's a gladiator sport which is what makes it what it is as the most popular sport in America.

Whaley is saying nothing new here....

[IlluminatusUIUC]

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Exact Whaley quote: "It's a violent game that I personally don't think humans are supposed to play."

Nothing in that statement has anything to do with defending Watkins. It's a general statement and a very damning one.

Oh come on, Op, you're supposed to better then this. That's not an exact quote, it's one line cropped out of a paragraph answer.

You can listen to the interview yourself here: http://www.wgr550.com/Whaley-Lawson-...der-i/22753385

The Howard Simon Show: Do you worry about the number of injuries he [Watkins] has had? Is he injury prone?

Whaley: I wouldn't say that. You look at his game log, and he's only missed three games. So is he's injury prone? I wouldn't say that. With a guy like this, we hope it gets limited in the future, but this is the game of football. Injuries are part of it. It's a violent game that personally I don't think humans are supposed to play. And these things are going to come up, but we trust in our medical staff and we trust in each individual athlete to do what they have to do to get back on the field.