Rexy whacks Williams (Mario)

[Joe Fo Sho]

And I'm sure it makes perfect sense to you to pass rush with your coverage guys while your pass rushers are in coverage.

It is a perfectly good strategy when used within reason. I mean geez, Belichick even dropped Vince Wilfork into coverage on occasion.

Ronde Barber has 28 sacks, Charles Woodson has 20, there careers were not just riddled with incompetent coordinators.

[coastal]

Mario was an OLB in Houston in his last year there. He only played in 5 games before he got hurt and placed on IR. But he managed to get 5 sacks in those 5 games at OLB...5 sacks, the same amount of sacks he got in 16 games last year for the Bills. Not like Rex didn't line him up at OLB last year on however many snaps, either. Not like he didn't line up in that spot in many a different year.

This thing has turned into a farce. If people want to criticize Rex, there are plenty of legitimate reasons to do so...this isn't one of them. I think I read somewhere that Mario actually dropped into coverage something like a little less than twice a game on average.

Here is why people SHOULD BE PISSED:

+100,000,000

[coastal]

27.5 sacks the 2 previous years under 2 different coaches vs. 5 for Rexy.

Only a true genius can bring out the worst in his players.

There's some mgmt truth to this but when you're the highest paid player in franchise history... you should be one of the people who doesn't need to be managed.

Mario used Rex as his excuse and opportunity to get out of an accountable situation and to get himself one last large payday.

[YardRat]

Doesn't say much for KW's leadership skills for not calling him out, or Wrecks' coaching ability for not benching him.

For the 100,000,000th time, Wrecks took a dominant #4 defense and reduced it to rubble in one season, and if anybody thinks that falls on one player's shoulders they might as well give up on football and stick to figure skating and women's tennis.

[SpikedLemonade]

Doesn't say much for KW's leadership skills for not calling him out, or Wrecks' coaching ability for not benching him.

For the 100,000,000th time, Wrecks took a dominant #4 defense and reduced it to rubble in one season, and if anybody thinks that falls on one player's shoulders they might as well give up on football and stick to figure skating and women's tennis.

Did someone say women's tennis?

[feldspar]

Doesn't say much for KW's leadership skills for not calling him out

C'mon now.

Kyle was hurt and didn't even play six games. He was on IR.

Good Lord, but the things people will invent to whine about...

[YardRat]

C'mon now.

Kyle was hurt and didn't even play six games. He was on IR.

Good Lord, but the things people will invent to whine about...

Hey feldspooge...how's it hangin'?

[feldspar]

Hey feldspooge...how's it hangin'?

Pretty good, YardFat...best I could come up with on such short notice....

[swiper]

Yardfart is funnier.

[Mace]

It is a perfectly good strategy when used within reason. I mean geez, Belichick even dropped Vince Wilfork into coverage on occasion.

Ronde Barber has 28 sacks, Charles Woodson has 20, there careers were not just riddled with incompetent coordinators.

Well here, it wasn't. Lowest sack totals ever since a 16 game season, that's 37 years. That speaks for itself, no way around it. That spells sack failsauce, and a perfectly bad strategy when compared to 37 years of Buffalo defenses. We had 2 2-14 teams, 1 3-13 team with more sacks. Didn't work, that's just how it is.

[feldspar]

.That spells sack failsauce.

Lol, funny stuff.

Now we need something that spells relief.

[Mace]

Lol, funny stuff.

Now we need something that spells relief.

Absinthe.

It makes the heart grow fonder too.

[YardRat]

Yardfart is funnier.

What are you laughing at, asSwiper?

[jimmifli]

Did someone say women's tennis?

And next on ESPN The Ocho...

The pulling up your pants with no hands team championships:

[Joe Fo Sho]

Well here, it wasn't. Lowest sack totals ever since a 16 game season, that's 37 years. That speaks for itself, no way around it. That spells sack failsauce, and a perfectly bad strategy when compared to 37 years of Buffalo defenses. We had 2 2-14 teams, 1 3-13 team with more sacks. Didn't work, that's just how it is.

By this logic we shouldn't do anything that we did last year, at all.

What about all of the plays where we only rushed our 3 down lineman along with our 2 rush OLBs? Those plays also contributed to the high amount of fail sauce in our sack juice, probably even more so as we did that more often. Should we just abandon that whole strategy, too?

Our DBs last year accounted for almost 20% of our sack total.

[Skooby]

It's a fair statement though. Throughout Rex's career in Baltimore and the Jets, his defense has always been very competitive and always had some Dlinemen drop into coverage occasionally, yet he still produced. So if Mario couldn't learn that system, whose fault is that?

Day 1 in camp it's on Mario to buy in and learn the system, Mario didn't and mailed last season in. Mario b****ed day 1 and made things difficult, being the tail that wanted to wag the dog.

It's Mario's fault & only Mario is to blame for his ignorance.

[justasportsfan]

Mario has had his chances under the system when he was blocked 1 on 1 and he did nothing. So he's partly to blame for this. So much talent and physical prowess but the a heart the size of a peanut.

[Mace]

By this logic we shouldn't do anything that we did last year, at all.

What about all of the plays where we only rushed our 3 down lineman along with our 2 rush OLBs? Those plays also contributed to the high amount of fail sauce in our sack juice, probably even more so as we did that more often. Should we just abandon that whole strategy, too?

Our DBs last year accounted for almost 20% of our sack total.

Well, you lost me. I said :

Well here, it wasn't. Lowest sack totals ever since a 16 game season, that's 37 years. That speaks for itself, no way around it. That spells sack failsauce, and a perfectly bad strategy when compared to 37 years of Buffalo defenses. We had 2 2-14 teams, 1 3-13 team with more sacks. Didn't work, that's just how it is.

Then you say "by this logic we shouldn't do anything we did last year at all." So you're taking a statement of fact I made, and somehow stretched it into a logic that isn't expressed.

That our DB's accounted for 20% of the lowest sack total in 37 years just doesn't provide an argument for the method working, besides working well enough to provide 20% of the worst sack total in 37 years of Buffalo Bills defenses, including 2-14 & 3-13 teams.

I'm not really sure what your point is.

- You said dropping rushers into coverage and blitzing with coverage guys can work. I stated the simple, irrefutable fact that it didn't last year.

Now you're asking me if we should abandon another strategy that didn't work ?

Well, are you really asking me if we should abandon strategies that don't work or fail terribly ? Going out on a limb here, I'd have to say "Yes" ? Are you saying we should stick with strategies that don't work ? Doesn't make sense to me.

[Joe Fo Sho]

Well, you lost me. I said :



Then you say "by this logic we shouldn't do anything we did last year at all." So you're taking a statement of fact I made, and somehow stretched it into a logic that isn't expressed.

That our DB's accounted for 20% of the lowest sack total in 37 years just doesn't provide an argument for the method working, besides working well enough to provide 20% of the worst sack total in 37 years of Buffalo Bills defenses, including 2-14 & 3-13 teams.

I'm not really sure what your point is.

- You said dropping rushers into coverage and blitzing with coverage guys can work. I stated the simple, irrefutable fact that it didn't last year.

Now you're asking me if we should abandon another strategy that didn't work ?

Well, are you really asking me if we should abandon strategies that don't work or fail terribly ? Going out on a limb here, I'd have to say "Yes" ? Are you saying we should stick with strategies that don't work ? Doesn't make sense to me.

I was just trying to say that blitzing defensive backs is a valid strategy. Just because it didn't work last year, as you pointed out, doesn't mean that it won't work this year. There are, of course, different methods of doing that.

If we stopped doing everything that didn't work last year, we'd be all out of things to do.

[Bill Cody]

I was just trying to say that blitzing defensive backs is a valid strategy. Just because it didn't work last year, as you pointed out, doesn't mean that it won't work this year. There are, of course, different methods of doing that.

If we stopped doing everything that didn't work last year, we'd be all out of things to do.

Well there is the inevitable fire Rex thing that's still left