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    NHL rolling the dice on Las Vegas

    The league Board of Governors unanimously approved Las Vegas as the 31st NHL franchise. Over 13,000 deposits for season tickets were received for the new team which will begin play in the 2017-18 season and play at the new T-Mobile Arena. But...the price to join: $500 million.

    Also, Quebec City's expansion application was deferred; Commissioner Gary Bettman said that was primarily due to the value of the Canadian dollar.
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    Re: NHL rolling the dice on Las Vegas

    great video History of nhl expansion


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    Re: NHL rolling the dice on Las Vegas

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    Re: NHL rolling the dice on Las Vegas

    I would have preferred relocation to expansion but I think Vegas is a good idea.

    The NHL has struggled in non-traditional hockey markets (basically anywhere outside of NE, PA and Great Lakes/border states) but Vegas has no other major pro sports teams. The people will flock to it and it'll bring new fans to the game.

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    Re: NHL rolling the dice on Las Vegas

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37 View Post
    I would have preferred relocation to expansion but I think Vegas is a good idea.

    The NHL has struggled in non-traditional hockey markets (basically anywhere outside of NE, PA and Great Lakes/border states) but Vegas has no other major pro sports teams. The people will flock to it and it'll bring new fans to the game.
    But it won't be locals that go to the games for the most part. It will be like Carolina and Atlanta to an even greater degree. The crowds will be all for the visitors.

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    Hey, hookers like hockey too.

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    Re: NHL rolling the dice on Las Vegas

    And I'm sure Penn & Teller and Celine Dion will take in a few games.

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    Re: NHL rolling the dice on Las Vegas

    I bet the Scintas will be there when the Sabres are in town.

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    Re: NHL rolling the dice on Las Vegas

    Quote Originally Posted by gebobs View Post
    But it won't be locals that go to the games for the most part. It will be like Carolina and Atlanta to an even greater degree. The crowds will be all for the visitors.
    To some degree, sure. But the locals have no other options for pro sports so I think they will embrace it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37 View Post
    To some degree, sure. But the locals have no other options for pro sports so I think they will embrace it.
    I disagree. I think most people attending games will be people who get tickets from like casinos and such for free. The games will be filled, buy not by diehards
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    Re: NHL rolling the dice on Las Vegas

    They will be filled for the first year or two. Then the novelty will where off.
    Outside of the NFL I don't think any league can flourish long term in that city.

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    Re: NHL rolling the dice on Las Vegas

    Quote Originally Posted by k-oneputt View Post
    They will be filled for the first year or two. Then the novelty will where off.
    Outside of the NFL I don't think any league can flourish long term in that city.
    T-Mobile Arena...Las Vegas - 16,500 capacity...smallest arena in the whole NHL First Niagara Center capacity is 19,080
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    Re: NHL rolling the dice on Las Vegas

    Quote Originally Posted by DetDannyWilliams View Post
    T-Mobile Arena...Las Vegas - 16,500 capacity...smallest arena in the whole NHL First Niagara Center capacity is 19,080
    T mobile arena holds 17,368.

    Also, Winnipeg has the smallest arena at around 15,000

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    Re: NHL rolling the dice on Las Vegas

    NHL sets expansion draft rules...

    Protected Lists
    * Clubs will have two options for players they wish to protect in the Expansion Draft:
    a) Seven forwards, three defensemen and one goaltender
    b) Eight skaters (forwards/defensemen) and one goaltender
    * All players who have currently effective and continuing "No Movement" clauses at the time of the Expansion Draft (and who to decline to waive such clauses) must be protected (and will be counted toward their club's applicable protection limits).
    * All first- and second-year professionals, as well as all unsigned draft choices, will be exempt from selection (and will not be counted toward their club's applicable protection limits).
    Player Exposure Requirements
    * All Clubs must meet the following minimum requirements regarding players exposed for selection in the Expansion Draft:
    i) One defenseman who is a) under contract in 2017-18 and b) played in 40 or more NHL games the prior season OR played in 70 or more NHL games in the prior two seasons.
    ii) Two forwards who are a) under contract in 2017-18 and b) played in 40 or more NHL games the prior season OR played in 70 or more NHL games in the prior two seasons.
    iii) One goaltender who is under contract in 2017-18 or will be a restricted free agent at the expiration of his current contract immediately prior to 2017-18. If the club elects to make a restricted free agent goaltender available in order to meet this requirement, that goaltender must have received his qualifying offer prior to the submission of the club's protected list.
    * Players with potential career-ending injuries who have missed more than the previous 60 consecutive games (or who otherwise have been confirmed to have a career-threatening injury) may not be used to satisfy a club's player exposure requirements, unless approval is received from the NHL. Such players also may be deemed exempt from selection by the League.
    Regulations Relating to Expansion Franchise
    * The Las Vegas franchise must select one player from each presently existing club for a total of 30 players (not including additional players who may be acquired as the result of violations of the Expansion Draft rules).
    * The Las Vegas franchise must select the following number of players at each position: 14 forwards, nine defensemen and three goaltenders.
    * The Las Vegas franchise must select a minimum of 20 players who are under contract for the 2017-18 season.
    * The Las Vegas franchise must select players with an aggregate Expansion Draft value that is between 60-100% of the prior season's upper limit for the salary cap.
    * The Las Vegas franchise may not buy out any of the players selected in the Expansion Draft earlier than the summer following its first season.
    The 30 NHL Clubs must submit their Protection List by 5:00 P.M. ET on Saturday, June 17, 2017. The Las Vegas team must submit their Expansion Draft Selections by 5:00 P.M. ET on June 20 and the announcement of their selections will be released on made on June 21

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    Re: NHL rolling the dice on Las Vegas

    Quote Originally Posted by JATMtheJATM View Post
    T mobile arena holds 17,368.

    Also, Winnipeg has the smallest arena at around 15,000
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    Re: NHL rolling the dice on Las Vegas

    Does Matt Moulson have a no trade clause?


    http://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/news...id=mailsignout

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    Re: NHL rolling the dice on Las Vegas

    Quote Originally Posted by Ginger Vitis View Post
    Does Matt Moulson have a no trade clause?


    http://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/news...id=mailsignout
    Hopefully Moulsen will be gone long before the expansion draft.

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    Re: NHL rolling the dice on Las Vegas

    Quote Originally Posted by DetDannyWilliams View Post
    T-Mobile Arena...Las Vegas - 16,500 capacity...smallest arena in the whole NHL First Niagara Center capacity is 19,080
    Uhhhhh...no. (Uh huh huh huh.... ) Actually, T-Mobile Arena's capacity for hockey is 17,638.(Yes, JATM beat me to this, but it must be repeated.)

    MTS Centre in Winnipeg STILL holds the mark for fewest seats at 15,294.

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    Re: NHL rolling the dice on Las Vegas

    BTW, per the rules that the Detective posted, here's who the Las Vegas team CAN'T select from the Sabres:

    Eichel. Reinhart. Nylander. I think Risto is off the board, too(but can't be sure).

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    Re: NHL rolling the dice on Las Vegas

    Quote Originally Posted by Ginger Vitis View Post
    Does Matt Moulson have a no trade clause?


    http://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/news...id=mailsignout
    yes he does

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