Tyrod's Contract Break Down (didn't see it posted here)

[feldspar]

There's gotta be like a high school football team/cheerleader joke in there somewhere. I'm sure of it.

Well, I'm a gentleman.

So all I'll say is that you are the right track...let your dirty mind fill in the blanks. I wash my hands of the whole matter.

[feldspar]

I'm just saying we already have holes and if Tyrod doesn't work out, we are going to have $18 million less to use to fill them.

$18 million will buy you lots of holes. Believe me when I tell ya.

Although, I don't see where you came up with that figure. I thought is was $10 million in dead cap space after this year if they don't want to go ahead with it.

[GingerP]

Those dead cap numbers for 2017 and 2018 are brutal.

If he doesn't work out this season, we will need to find a QB, replace or resign Gilmore, fix all the holes we didn't address this off season plus fix any new holes that arise with $18 million in dead cap alone. Yet people keep insisting that the contract is team friendly....

Those dead cap hits aren't accurate. If they decline his option after this year, the only dead money is what is remaining of his $3.4M signing bonus this year. His dead money if they let him go after this year would be $2,853,334.

They have to make a decision on him by the 3rd day of the next league year. If they keep him, they pay him a $15.5M option bonus and his base salary becomes guaranteed. His base salaries each year are guaranteed on the 3rd day of the league year, so he is basically playing year-to-year.

Really, it is a good contract if he plays well because it will be a good value, or if he plays poorly because they have an easy out. If he is just decent, it probably isn't a great contract since he will be overpaid or they will be forced to cut him and start over.

[ghz in pittsburgh]

Those dead cap numbers for 2017 and 2018 are brutal.

If he doesn't work out this season, we will need to find a QB, replace or resign Gilmore, fix all the holes we didn't address this off season plus fix any new holes that arise with $18 million in dead cap alone. Yet people keep insisting that the contract is team friendly....

The Bills are gambling that if 2016 works out for Tyrod, the likelyhood of 2017 and 2018 working out is much higher -- in fact if Tyrod goes to open market when another strong 2016 season, he'll get much more guaranteed money and more cap hits than whis contract. That is a reasonable assumption.

[feldspar]

Those dead cap hits aren't accurate. If they decline his option after this year, the only dead money is what is remaining of his $3.4M signing bonus this year. His dead money if they let him go after this year would be $2,853,334.

They have to make a decision on him by the 3rd day of the next league year. If they keep him, they pay him a $15.5M option bonus and his base salary becomes guaranteed. His base salaries each year are guaranteed on the 3rd day of the league year, so he is basically playing year-to-year.

Really, it is a good contract if he plays well because it will be a good value, or if he plays poorly because they have an easy out. If he is just decent, it probably isn't a great contract since he will be overpaid or they will be forced to cut him and start over.

Man, Is that right?

[OpIv37]

$18 million will buy you lots of holes. Believe me when I tell ya.

Although, I don't see where you came up with that figure. I thought is was $10 million in dead cap space after this year if they don't want to go ahead with it.

I got the figure directly from the chart in the first post of this thread.

[GingerP]

Man, Is that right?

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/tyrod-taylor/

This is accurate, but the dead money hits are based on his current situation (option not yet picked up). They increase by a lot if the option is picked up on the 3rd day of the 2017 league year.

[GingerP]

I got the figure directly from the chart in the first post of this thread.

Which is based on his option being picked up. If it isn't picked up, his dead money is $2,853,334. Basically, they paid him $9.5M this year to see if he can play well enough to earn a new contract.

[The Jokeman]

Dollars to donuts he gets cut by the end of the year. This team is going to be 3+ games under 0.500.

And if we that bad likely drafting in top 10 pick and could draft Deshaun Watson or Brad Kaaya and still have a developing Cardale Jones.

[Frenchman]

Well glad it is done. Just needs to stay on healthy. That is his only concern.

[gebobs]

I'll bet you $100 on that prediction.

Which one?

[Goobylal]

Which one?

Both. i'll bet $100 that TT does not get cut before the end of the season and another $100 on the team finishing better than 5-11.

[gebobs]

Both. i'll bet $100 that TT does not get cut before the end of the season and another $100 on the team finishing better than 5-11.

I'll pass on that first one. Given the Bills penchant for throwing away money for nothing, that was more or less a hopeful prediction. They'll go 6-10 and figure he's the right man to get them to 7-9 next year.

As for the wins, a bold 5 win prediction deserves odds. Let's call it 5-1 for that 100 clams or go a double sawbuck straight up that they regress from last year i.e. finish under 0.500.

[Goobylal]

I'll pass on that first one. Given the Bills penchant for throwing away money for nothing, that was more or less a hopeful prediction. They'll go 6-10 and figure he's the right man to get them to 7-9 next year.

As for the wins, a bold 5 win prediction deserves odds. Let's call it 5-1 for that 100 clams or go a double sawbuck straight up that they regress from last year i.e. finish under 0.500.

I'll give 5-1 odds.

[gebobs]

On a double sawbuck. I can swing that without a bit of regret if they do well.

[ghz in pittsburgh]

On a more serious note, if Tyrod Taylor works out, we are probably going to see Rex here for the foreseeable future. When you have a franchise QB, it means you have a realistic chance to win every game. Also Tyrod is more of a Rex wants not a Whaley discovery. As I said before, the Whaley and Nix idea of QBs is all about prototype big arm, 6'4" etc., evident by their drafting record. Tyrod does not fit that mold.

[gebobs]

As long as we make the playoffs (which is my personal bar for determining if Taylor works out), Whaley could hire the rotting corpse of Harvey Johnson for all I care.

[ghz in pittsburgh]

My point is more about giving Rex some credit. In this case, I guess, his connections to Baltimore, Ray Lewis, Ed reed, to name a few, comes to fruition. Those guys , HOF guys, being on the same team with Taylor everyday for a number of years, apparently saw something in him.

[Goobylal]

On a more serious note, if Tyrod Taylor works out, we are probably going to see Rex here for the foreseeable future. When you have a franchise QB, it means you have a realistic chance to win every game. Also Tyrod is more of a Rex wants not a Whaley discovery. As I said before, the Whaley and Nix idea of QBs is all about prototype big arm, 6'4" etc., evident by their drafting record. Tyrod does not fit that mold.

I also believe that Rex was instrumental in getting TT to Buffalo. And if he becomes a franchise QB, meaning the Bills are winning, there is no need to fire Rex.