Page 6 of 6 FirstFirst ... 23456
Results 101 to 113 of 113

Thread: Bills torn a new one, here comes the expectations of a 5-6 win season

  1. #101
    Haha...yeah you think so ? Mace's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Location
    Buffalo
    Posts
    20,301
    Thanks
    25,330
    Thanked 16,494 Times in 9,189 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    62

    Re: Bills torn a new one, here comes the expectations of a 5-6 win season

    I just read through it, 2 clauses down from the one you cited.

    (g)Voiding of Guarantees.
    Notwithstanding any other provision of this Section 9, a Club and player may negotiate the circumstances under which the guarantee of any unearned Salary (including, without limitation, Paragraph 5 Salary and/or future year roster bonuses, option bonuses or reporting bonuses)may be voided. This Subsec-tion
    (g) only applies to the guarantee aspect of the contract provision, and not to the amount that can be earned, and in no way expands the permissible scope of Forfeitable Salary under this Section.
    And so.

  2. #102
    Buffalo Bills Fan
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Posts
    15,084
    Thanks
    685
    Thanked 3,092 Times in 2,341 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    52

    Re: Bills torn a new one, here comes the expectations of a 5-6 win season

    Why are we so concerned about the financial affairs of multi-milionaires?
    Fiat justitia ruat caelum. Noli timere. Laus Deo.

  3. #103
    Haha...yeah you think so ? Mace's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Location
    Buffalo
    Posts
    20,301
    Thanks
    25,330
    Thanked 16,494 Times in 9,189 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    62

    Re: Bills torn a new one, here comes the expectations of a 5-6 win season

    Quote Originally Posted by stuckincincy View Post
    Why are we so concerned about the financial affairs of multi-milionaires?
    Offseason.

  4. Post thanked by:

    YardRat (08-27-2016)

  5. #104
    Well, lookie here... YardRat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    A hole in your wall.
    Posts
    85,880
    Thanks
    30,558
    Thanked 30,561 Times in 17,445 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    243

    Re: Bills torn a new one, here comes the expectations of a 5-6 win season

    Quote Originally Posted by Mace View Post
    Yeah, I just think the first sentence is inaccurate, and as far as Hernandez specifically, section 9(a) covers incarceration being a forfeitable breach.

    I did, however, find this under 9(g)...

    Notwithstanding any other provision of this Section 9, a Club and player may negotiate the circumstances under which the guarantee of any unearned Salary (including, without limitation, Paragraph 5 Salary and/or future year roster bonuses, option bonuses or reporting bonuses)

    may be voided. This Subsec-tion (g) only applies to the guarantee aspect of the contract provision, and not to the amount that can be earned, and in no way expands the permissible scope of Forfeitable Salary under this Section.


    ...although, considering the last sentence (not expanding the scope of forfeitable salary), I still don't see how additional language could've been added to Dareus' contract to protect the team.
    YardRat Wall of Fame
    #56 DARRYL TALLEY
    #29 DERRICK BURROUGHS#22 FRED JACKSON #95 KYLE WILLIAMS

  6. #105
    Haha...yeah you think so ? Mace's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Location
    Buffalo
    Posts
    20,301
    Thanks
    25,330
    Thanked 16,494 Times in 9,189 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    62

    Re: Bills torn a new one, here comes the expectations of a 5-6 win season

    Quote Originally Posted by YardRat View Post
    Yeah, I just think the first sentence is inaccurate, and as far as Hernandez specifically, section 9(a) covers incarceration being a forfeitable breach.

    I did, however, find this under 9(g)...

    Notwithstanding any other provision of this Section 9, a Club and player may negotiate the circumstances under which the guarantee of any unearned Salary (including, without limitation, Paragraph 5 Salary and/or future year roster bonuses, option bonuses or reporting bonuses)

    may be voided. This Subsec-tion (g) only applies to the guarantee aspect of the contract provision, and not to the amount that can be earned, and in no way expands the permissible scope of Forfeitable Salary under this Section.


    ...although, considering the last sentence (not expanding the scope of forfeitable salary), I still don't see how additional language could've been added to Dareus' contract to protect the team.
    Same as to Lane Johnson's. Unable to perform not due to injury, skill or cap.

    Again, doesn't forfeit the salary, forfeits the guarantee of salary with signee unable to complete terms not due to injury, cap or arbitrary skill, but unable to perform as contracted.
    Last edited by Mace; 08-27-2016 at 09:34 PM.

  7. #106
    Well, lookie here... YardRat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    A hole in your wall.
    Posts
    85,880
    Thanks
    30,558
    Thanked 30,561 Times in 17,445 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    243

    Re: Bills torn a new one, here comes the expectations of a 5-6 win season

    Quote Originally Posted by Mace View Post
    Same as to Lane Johnson's. Unable to perform not due to injury, skill or cap.
    But Dareus is covered under section (e), which prohibits additional language for drug or steroid violations.

  8. #107
    Haha...yeah you think so ? Mace's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Location
    Buffalo
    Posts
    20,301
    Thanks
    25,330
    Thanked 16,494 Times in 9,189 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    62

    Re: Bills torn a new one, here comes the expectations of a 5-6 win season

    Quote Originally Posted by YardRat View Post
    But Dareus is covered under section (e), which prohibits additional language for drug or steroid violations.
    It's not additional drug language. The athlete forfeits guaranteed by being unable to perform as contracted not related to injury, cap or skill (as covered by the CBA). That could cover jail, crack addiction, not feeling like playing, etc. It's not an explicit drug clause, it's a player's actions outside the CBA clause.
    Last edited by Mace; 08-27-2016 at 09:47 PM.

  9. #108
    Buffalo Bills Fan
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Posts
    15,084
    Thanks
    685
    Thanked 3,092 Times in 2,341 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    52

    Re: Bills torn a new one, here comes the expectations of a 5-6 win season

    Quote Originally Posted by Mace View Post
    Offseason.
    But, but, according to the lights of many on another section of this site, we are advised to hunt down rich folks and string them up. Is there a sports figure/entertainment figure exemption in effect?

  10. #109
    Haha...yeah you think so ? Mace's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Location
    Buffalo
    Posts
    20,301
    Thanks
    25,330
    Thanked 16,494 Times in 9,189 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    62

    Re: Bills torn a new one, here comes the expectations of a 5-6 win season

    Quote Originally Posted by stuckincincy View Post
    But, but, according to the lights of many on another section of this site, we are advised to hunt down rich folks and string them up. Is there a sports figure/entertainment figure exemption in effect?
    You lost me. I wouldn't care whatever how rich Dareus is if he wouldn't have gotten himself suspended. I would care even less if it didn't cost the team money to improve itself while paying for his useless.

    Dunno the thread you are talking about, it's probably in Spin Zone which you always have to take half serious anyway.

  11. #110
    Buffalo Bills Fan
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Posts
    15,084
    Thanks
    685
    Thanked 3,092 Times in 2,341 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    52

    Re: Bills torn a new one, here comes the expectations of a 5-6 win season

    Quote Originally Posted by Mace View Post
    You lost me. I wouldn't care whatever how rich Dareus is if he wouldn't have gotten himself suspended. I would care even less if it didn't cost the team money to improve itself while paying for his useless.

    Dunno the thread you are talking about, it's probably in Spin Zone which you always have to take half serious anyway.
    Yes - I lost you.

  12. #111
    Skoobasaurus-Rex Skooby's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Location
    Naples FL
    Posts
    22,282
    Thanks
    14,919
    Thanked 5,220 Times in 3,689 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    63

    Re: Bills torn a new one, here comes the expectations of a 5-6 win season

    If you break the law or get caught doing drugs, usually you go to jail. Athletes simply lose a few $ and then say how they'll improve, which I'm cool with. Dareus will not make up to 360 tests a year, there's zero chance. We need to find a way to ship his dumb *** out of town to get value back, no matter how well he plays this season.

    This is dude is clueless, it's going to only get worse so we need to cut bait.

  13. #112
    Skoobasaurus-Rex Skooby's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Location
    Naples FL
    Posts
    22,282
    Thanks
    14,919
    Thanked 5,220 Times in 3,689 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    63

    Re: Bills torn a new one, here comes the expectations of a 5-6 win season

    This is looking high now...

  14. #113
    Peterman Sucks! Mr. Pink's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    the fifth ring of hell
    Posts
    35,303
    Thanks
    2,755
    Thanked 10,254 Times in 6,469 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    97

    Re: Bills torn a new one, here comes the expectations of a 5-6 win season

    Dammit, Bucky and Sully might be right again...

    Who woulda thunk it?

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •