Bosa /Chargers aren't coming together, their best offer is being pulled of the table

[Mr. Pink]

Re: Bosa /Chargers aren't coming together, their best offer is being pulled of the ta

I just think Bosa has no desire to play for the Chargers and is quibbling about any little thing to get his way.

At this point almost everyone publicly is ridiculing the Chargers for what they're doing in this entire process and they might have pushed things beyond the point of no return.

Unless there is a sign and trade, which I dunno if it even happens in the NFL, I don't see Bosa ever signing a contract with the Chargers.

[Turf]

Re: Bosa /Chargers aren't coming together, their best offer is being pulled of the ta

I say **** the entitled jackass. He's alarming the entire league of his mentality and is only hurting himself in San Diego and elsewhere.

[DraftBoy]

Re: Bosa /Chargers aren't coming together, their best offer is being pulled of the ta

There's ALWAYS a bigger incentive to play well but you can't deny removing the offsets creates an incentive in the other direction that isn't there with the offsets. Obviously a lot of teams including SD have woken up to this and they want no part of it which makes sense to me.

I disagree, take Sammy Watkins for example. He was the #4 pick in 2014 and his contract does not contain any offset language. Do you think he has any kind of an incentive to not try hard? A guy is either going to want to make the most of his opportunity or he isn't, the inclusion of offset language doesn't do anything to add incentive for poor play.

Example: Let's say Bosa gets hurt and then isn't really the same guy after he returns and he gets frustrated. With no offsets he can play all kinds of games until he's cut and then some team like NE gives him a 2nd chance. So then he goes Rocky and puts the pedal to the metal all the while SD is still paying him. That's nonsense.

That's the risk you take when you draft any player. That's also why the owners got the rookie cap in the first place to limit their risk. Injuries happen and some times guys who get a second or third chance finally bloom.

[Mr. Pink]

Re: Bosa /Chargers aren't coming together, their best offer is being pulled of the ta

I say **** the entitled jackass. He's alarming the entire league of his mentality and is only hurting himself in San Diego and elsewhere.

The thing is he's not.

The rest of the league is pretty alarmed at the Chargers for their behavior in this whole thing.

[Bill Cody]

Re: Bosa /Chargers aren't coming together, their best offer is being pulled of the ta

I disagree, take Sammy Watkins for example. He was the #4 pick in 2014 and his contract does not contain any offset language. Do you think he has any kind of an incentive to not try hard? A guy is either going to want to make the most of his opportunity or he isn't, the inclusion of offset language doesn't do anything to add incentive for poor play.

Obviously you're wrong. If you were right teams wouldn't be demanding it. Or is your position that no player would ever take advantage of the contract just because most don't? Or that the teams are just being dicks? No, there's a reason there's an argument here.

That's the risk you take when you draft any player. That's also why the owners got the rookie cap in the first place to limit their risk. Injuries happen and some times guys who get a second or third chance finally bloom.

Only if the team and the player agree it is. The offsets are not illegal. Your argument is that it wasn't done in the past so it shouldn't be done now. To which I say it was dumb before and it's dumb now.

[DraftBoy]

Re: Bosa /Chargers aren't coming together, their best offer is being pulled of the ta

Obviously you're wrong. If you were right teams wouldn't be demanding it. Or is your position that no player would ever take advantage of the contract just because most don't? Or that the teams are just being dicks? No, there's a reason there's an argument here.

Not one player from 2012-2015 who was drafted 2-5 was asked to include offsets, now suddenly its being asked. But it couldn't be that the NFL owners are simply trying to find a new way within the current labor agreement to mitigate their risk while the player has to just suck it up and take it? That doesn't make any sense.

Only if the team and the player agree it is. The offsets are not illegal. Your argument is that it wasn't done in the past so it shouldn't be done now. To which I say it was dumb before and it's dumb now.

We agree, the idea of offsets is dumb.

[Skooby]

Re: Bosa /Chargers aren't coming together, their best offer is being pulled of the ta

Chargers don't normally draft in the top 3 so it's new ground for them, some capitulation needs to happen on the Chargers behalf and his behalf. The whole thing just seems stupid.

[stuckincincy]

Re: Bosa /Chargers aren't coming together, their best offer is being pulled of the ta

Fun Chargers fact: In 1985, they drafted OL Jim Lachey in the 1st round. The next time they drafted an OL in the first was in 2013 - DJ Fluker. That's a 28-year stretch.

[Skooby]

Re: Bosa /Chargers aren't coming together, their best offer is being pulled of the ta

Fun Chargers fact: In 1985, they drafted OL Jim Lachey in the 1st round. The next time they drafted an OL in the first was in 2013 - DJ Fluker. That's a 28-year stretch.

Wow, that's a long long time.

[Mr. Pink]

Re: Bosa /Chargers aren't coming together, their best offer is being pulled of the ta

Holy crap...miracles do happen.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000692119/article/chargers-sign-joey-bosa-to-fouryear-contract

[Skooby]

Re: Bosa /Chargers aren't coming together, their best offer is being pulled of the ta

Holy crap...miracles do happen.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...ryear-contract

/ End thread.

[Joe Fo Sho]

Re: Bosa /Chargers aren't coming together, their best offer is being pulled of the ta

So who caved?

[Bill Cody]

Re: Bosa /Chargers aren't coming together, their best offer is being pulled of the ta

Not one player from 2012-2015 who was drafted 2-5 was asked to include offsets, now suddenly its being asked. But it couldn't be that the NFL owners are simply trying to find a new way within the current labor agreement to mitigate their risk while the player has to just suck it up and take it? That doesn't make any sense.

Not trying to find found and a perfectly sensible one. The only scenario it matters is if a player was cut, that won't happen under a rookie contract if the player is performing.

We agree, the idea of no offsets is dumb.

I suspect Bosa caved. He changed lead negotiators.

[Skooby]

Re: Bosa /Chargers aren't coming together, their best offer is being pulled of the ta

Not trying to find found and a perfectly sensible one. The only scenario it matters is if a player was cut, that won't happen under a rookie contract if the player is performing.






I suspect Bosa caved. He changed lead negotiators.

It's the exact opposite, SD caved. SD has had holdouts for all their stars at one time or another, they are very difficult to work with and have been.

[Mace]

Re: Bosa /Chargers aren't coming together, their best offer is being pulled of the ta

So who caved?

San Diego, he got the exact same contract he was going to get all along, just with all 17 mil signing bonus up front.