Bosa /Chargers aren't coming together, their best offer is being pulled of the table

[DraftBoy]

Obviously you're wrong. If you were right teams wouldn't be demanding it. Or is your position that no player would ever take advantage of the contract just because most don't? Or that the teams are just being dicks? No, there's a reason there's an argument here.

Not one player from 2012-2015 who was drafted 2-5 was asked to include offsets, now suddenly its being asked. But it couldn't be that the NFL owners are simply trying to find a new way within the current labor agreement to mitigate their risk while the player has to just suck it up and take it? That doesn't make any sense.

Only if the team and the player agree it is. The offsets are not illegal. Your argument is that it wasn't done in the past so it shouldn't be done now. To which I say it was dumb before and it's dumb now.

We agree, the idea of offsets is dumb.

[Skooby]

Chargers don't normally draft in the top 3 so it's new ground for them, some capitulation needs to happen on the Chargers behalf and his behalf. The whole thing just seems stupid.

[stuckincincy]

Fun Chargers fact: In 1985, they drafted OL Jim Lachey in the 1st round. The next time they drafted an OL in the first was in 2013 - DJ Fluker. That's a 28-year stretch.

[Skooby]

Fun Chargers fact: In 1985, they drafted OL Jim Lachey in the 1st round. The next time they drafted an OL in the first was in 2013 - DJ Fluker. That's a 28-year stretch.

Wow, that's a long long time.

[Mr. Pink]

Holy crap...miracles do happen.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...ryear-contract

[Skooby]

Holy crap...miracles do happen.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...ryear-contract

/ End thread.

[Joe Fo Sho]

So who caved?

[Bill Cody]

Not one player from 2012-2015 who was drafted 2-5 was asked to include offsets, now suddenly its being asked. But it couldn't be that the NFL owners are simply trying to find a new way within the current labor agreement to mitigate their risk while the player has to just suck it up and take it? That doesn't make any sense.

Not trying to find found and a perfectly sensible one. The only scenario it matters is if a player was cut, that won't happen under a rookie contract if the player is performing.

We agree, the idea of no offsets is dumb.

I suspect Bosa caved. He changed lead negotiators.

[Skooby]

Not trying to find found and a perfectly sensible one. The only scenario it matters is if a player was cut, that won't happen under a rookie contract if the player is performing.






I suspect Bosa caved. He changed lead negotiators.

It's the exact opposite, SD caved. SD has had holdouts for all their stars at one time or another, they are very difficult to work with and have been.

[Mace]

So who caved?

San Diego, he got the exact same contract he was going to get all along, just with all 17 mil signing bonus up front.

[DraftBoy]

Good for Bosa, he held strong and Chargers caved because they knew they were in the wrong.

[Mace]

Good for Bosa, he held strong and Chargers caved because they knew they were in the wrong.

I still don't get why because it's the exact same guaranteed money over term, but probably time to forget about it until it happens to us.

[Skooby]

SD laid down to get it done, the tough talk didn't work:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...get-deal-done/

SD hasn't drafted in the top 3 in a long time and it was way before this new system was in place, still this didn't need to go that far.

[Joe Fo Sho]

I still don't get why because it's the exact same guaranteed money over term, but probably time to forget about it until it happens to us.

If he's going to be smart and invest the money, it would be best for him to get it all up front so his money could start earning him more money instead of just letting it sit in Spanos' pocket. I think that's really the only difference.

[Skooby]

If he's going to be smart and invest the money, it would be best for him to get it all up front so his money could start earning him more money instead of just letting it sit in Spanos' pocket. I think that's really the only difference.

Pretty valid point and it's in his bank already so odds of something going wrong are not that high.

[Mace]

If he's going to be smart and invest the money, it would be best for him to get it all up front so his money could start earning him more money instead of just letting it sit in Spanos' pocket. I think that's really the only difference.

Honestly, it would be smarter to learn how to invest the money and play the tax bracket game with less tax hit per year. The sheer volume of guaranteed money is hardly relevant unless he thinks his financial management team will be smarter this year than they will be next year, in which case he chose the wrong financial management team.

[Joe Fo Sho]

Honestly, it would be smarter to learn how to invest the money and play the tax bracket game with less tax hit per year. The sheer volume of guaranteed money is hardly relevant unless he thinks his financial management team will be smarter this year than they will be next year, in which case he chose the wrong financial management team.

Can he play the tax bracket game? Isn't he going to be in the highest tax bracket pretty much no matter how they divide his salary? Admittedly, I don't really know what the tax bracket game is. Just that if you earn over $415k, you're in the highest one.

Maybe he just wants all that money so he can snort it up his nose faster. A lot of people do that, too.

[Skooby]

Can he play the tax bracket game? Isn't he going to be in the highest tax bracket pretty much no matter how they divide his salary? Admittedly, I don't really know what the tax bracket game is. Just that if you earn over $415k, you're in the highest one.

Maybe he just wants all that money so he can snort it up his nose faster. A lot of people do that, too.

A team is less likely to recover money after paying it versus it already being paid as it's already guaranteed. He's already in the highest tax bracket either way, don't you worry about that.

[DraftBoy]

I still don't get why because it's the exact same guaranteed money over term, but probably time to forget about it until it happens to us.

Despite many of the lies that SD put out, Bosa's camp was always consistent. Either they wanted all the money up front (doesn't really matter why) or no offset language. They got what they asked for and signed the deal.

[kscdogbillsfan1221]

as much as we used to ***** about ralph being cheap, it seems that he was a saint compared to mike brown or the spanos'