Seriously? The Bills miss way more than they hit. NE hits way more than they miss. Are they perfect? Of course not, but Bellicheck saw something in this guy, or at least thought he was better than the few alternatives, and he's earned the benefit of the doubt. The Bills.... Not so much.Originally Posted by Novacane
Fair enough on the Bills. They've earned their reputation but NE gets way to much credit. They hit on a 6th round pick 15 years ago so people just assume everything they do is going to be awesome. I'm not going to go through their list of bombs but just last year this board was in an uproar about how great Scott Chandler was going to be in NE. Give me a break!
If that's what you think, then you haven't read the responses in this thread. Most thought it was a bad move. NE misses on a lot of stuff. Without Tom Brady, Bill Belichick would have a whole different type of reputation. One more like the one he had in Cleveland.
In that 15 years, they only missed the playoff once, and they won 11 games with Matt Cassell that year. Brady helps but it's a lot more than just him. And there are a lot of players who played far better with NE than they did with with any other team.
Actually the Bills and Pats hits and misses are equal the only difference is they have Brady to cover their mistakes and we don't.
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Belichick has Brady.
End of story.
They went 11-5 with Cassell. It's more than Brady and always has been.
Yup...it's called cheating.
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He only had 1 move coming out of LSU.
Billy Bells might be able to get 3-4 sacks out of him.
But no chance he becomes a huge part of that team.
Think a poor man's Aaron Maybin.
Wrecks got six sacks and four forced fumbles out of Maybin for one season...I would expect BB to get at least that out of Mingo.
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The Patriots had the easiest strength of schedule in the league that year, though. They obviously had a fantastic team then, no doubt, but they don't have anything close to that now. You can't tell me that the Pats would do that well with Cassell this year. No, it's mostly Brady and Belijerk. Obviously, nobody does it alone, but those two guys are the reason for the sustained success. Without Brady, they wouldn't be nearly as good.
Funny, though. The Patriots picked up the #6 and #7 overall picks from the 2013 draft class this offseason. Not the best draft class ever....
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Well Mingo did have 5 sacks as a rookie, so there is some potential there.
Hasn't forced a fumble in his career though
http://www.12up.com/posts/3715985-ne...ut?a_aid=40677
Mingo was all over the field on Thursday night against the Giants. He was used on both edges on the line and also off the line as a linebacker in coverage. As soon as he came into the game in the 2nd quarter, his presence was felt. Here he is seen getting all the way to the quarterback and forcing the strip sack. It's plays like this that will get you on Bill Belichick's good side.
Belichick said after the game "He lived in the facility for the last week" and clearly it shows. His versatility is going to be a huge part of this Patriots defense and did they ever show off last night.
Mingo finished the game with 6 tackles, one for a loss, including his strip sack and also two quarterback hits.
Mace (09-02-2016)
So he did well against future fast food workers? Good for him.
Mingo in now in a system that won't expect so much for this 5th round pick. 6th overall for the Browns was full of far more pressure and expectation. New England fleeced a bottom feeder once again.
Mingo is now a 5th round player.... on a winning team. good for him.
I know the B'gals always rag-dolled him during the regular season.
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9 games........10 tackles.......0 sacks
No surprise.
Chandler Jones.......9 games , 28 tackles , 7 sacks , 2 ff
Jamie Collins........2 games , 17 tackles , 1 sack
Bad move after bad move by Belichick.......most be nice having Brady
I'm shocked that Mingo is nothing more than a Special Teams player for the Pats.
SHOCKED.
He'll be out of the league soon enough and can go chat with Aaron Maybin about what it's like to sucker a team into drafting them in the first round, while laughing about their bank accounts.
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