Why Russ Brandon needs to go.

[Joe Fo Sho]

Re: Why Russ Brandon needs to go.

So the general consensus is that Russ Brandon is in complete control of the business side of both a professional Hockey and Football team, and still finds enough time in his day to make/ruin the crucial decisions for the football side of the Buffalo Bills. Man, this guy needs a raise. That is an incredible amount to ask of one person.

[coastal]

Re: Why Russ Brandon needs to go.

So the general consensus is that Russ Brandon is in complete control of the business side of both a professional Hockey and Football team, and still finds enough time in his day to make/ruin the crucial decisions for the football side of the Buffalo Bills. Man, this guy needs a raise. That is an incredible amount to ask of one person.

youbarent getting the concept...

who is tesponsbile for structuring the business for success?

[Joe Fo Sho]

Re: Why Russ Brandon needs to go.

youbarent getting the concept...

who is tesponsbile for structuring the business for success?

Terry Pegula

[Guest]

Re: Why Russ Brandon needs to go.

Terry Pegula

That baby can only drill baby drill.

[coastal]

Re: Why Russ Brandon needs to go.

Terry Pegula

You're a ****ing idiot.

[swiper]

Re: Why Russ Brandon needs to go.

Hire the Wolf as President of Football Operations and give him complete authority.

Russ Brandon is THE best minor league baseball marketing coordinator in the NFL.

Fire Russ.

Hire Coastal.

The Bills don't need a 5-card pud.

[Mace]

Re: Why Russ Brandon needs to go.

So the general consensus is that Russ Brandon is in complete control of the business side of both a professional Hockey and Football team, and still finds enough time in his day to make/ruin the crucial decisions for the football side of the Buffalo Bills. Man, this guy needs a raise. That is an incredible amount to ask of one person.

I'm not sure anyone said he's in absolute complete control of everything, or makes absolute complete final decisions in everything on the football side. Even looking to assert or criticize the thought based on the absolutes some people seek to embrace is overly simplistic. I mean, you know that, come on.

Influence on the organization, and input on major decisions such as coaching or GM hires and fires are not micro management and no one has yet come up with who in the world could be influential crunch time football voice in Pegula's ear besides him.

This is because atm, there is no one, and if Whaley or Ryan are booted, you're going to see his name again as a part of the search process, and you know that too.

[Joe Fo Sho]

Re: Why Russ Brandon needs to go.

You're a ****ing idiot.

Ask a dumb **** of a question, get a dumb **** of an answer. You get the trifecta for being a dumb ****.

[Mace]

Re: Why Russ Brandon needs to go.

Ask a dumb **** of a question, get a dumb **** of an answer. You get the trifecta for being a dumb ****.

The use of obscenities is unbecoming Fo Sho. I mean you expect Coastal to spout verbal filth for his heathen, if intoxicatingly beastly barbarianism , but is this kind of ****ing dynamic discourse really necessary for those of us who have small children reading over their shoulder ?

I mean I don't have small children reading over my shoulder and if I did they'd be mean savage little bastards anyway, but can we have some sense of propriety here ?

Don't use the excuse that he did it first, if all your friends jumped off Niagara Falls first, would you follow ?

How uncouth.

[Joe Fo Sho]

Re: Why Russ Brandon needs to go.

The use of obscenities is unbecoming Fo Sho. I mean you expect Coastal to spout verbal filth for his heathen, if intoxicatingly beastly barbarianism , but is this kind of ****ing dynamic discourse really necessary for those of us who have small children reading over their shoulder ?

I mean I don't have small children reading over my shoulder and if I did they'd be mean savage little bastards anyway, but can we have some sense of propriety here ?

Don't use the excuse that he did it first, if all your friends jumped off Niagara Falls first, would you follow ?

How uncouth.

****

[Arm of Harm]

Re: Why Russ Brandon needs to go.

So the general consensus is that Russ Brandon is in complete control of the business side of both a professional Hockey and Football team, and still finds enough time in his day to make/ruin the crucial decisions for the football side of the Buffalo Bills. Man, this guy needs a raise. That is an incredible amount to ask of one person.

The U.S. President is expected to serve as commander-in-chief of the armed forces. In addition, that president is expected to be actively involved in decisions involving diplomacy, immigration policy, the environment, economic policy, healthcare, fundraising for reelection, and a host of other issues. If the president can do all that, then surely a guy like Russ Brandon can find time to do the three things you mentioned. Especially if he uses some of the same techniques the president uses.

To exert this much power, the president hires a number of competent advisors. Those advisors present a menu of options to the president; along with a briefing on each menu choice. The president chooses from the menu, while leaving it to others to write actual legislation.

It would be very surprising if Brandon was responsible for the actual implementation of the business plans his department formulates. In most cases, the vast majority of that implementation is almost certainly carried out by subordinates. For a lot of this stuff, Brandon's job will be to provide big picture guidance, keep tabs on his subordinates, and ensure they are implementing effectively. It is not necessarily the case that he micromanages every little detail.

We know that he's had considerable input into the football side of things over the years, including his stint as GM and his involvement in the hiring of Whaley. Assuming Night Train's post is accurate, as I believe it to be, Brandon was also involved in the decision to draft Manuel. Thinking back a few years, I recall Marv describing the "consensus" approach to drafting the Bills had during his tenure as GM. One wonders how much role Brandon's input played in that "consensus."

What we have is a track record of a guy who's been giving football-related input for years. Input which, presumably, directly and significantly contributed to the longest active playoff drought in the NFL. We are told that it's possible to keep the guy, while getting rid of his bad football input, and his harmful, behind-the-scenes, football-related lobbying. Keeping a guy like that does not seem like the type of decision a Super Bowl-bound organization would make.

[Joe Fo Sho]

Re: Why Russ Brandon needs to go.

The U.S. President is expected to serve as commander-in-chief of the armed forces. In addition, that president is expected to be actively involved in decisions involving diplomacy, immigration policy, the environment, economic policy, healthcare, fundraising for reelection, and a host of other issues. If the president can do all that, then surely a guy like Russ Brandon can find time to do the three things you mentioned. Especially if he uses some of the same techniques the president uses.

To exert this much power, the president hires a number of competent advisors. Those advisors present a menu of options to the president; along with a briefing on each menu choice. The president chooses from the menu, while leaving it to others to write actual legislation.

It would be very surprising if Brandon was responsible for the actual implementation of the business plans his department formulates. In most cases, the vast majority of that implementation is almost certainly carried out by subordinates. For a lot of this stuff, Brandon's job will be to provide big picture guidance, keep tabs on his subordinates, and ensure they are implementing effectively. It is not necessarily the case that he micromanages every little detail.

Ok.

We know that he's had considerable input into the football side of things over the years, including his stint as GM and his involvement in the hiring of Whaley. Assuming Night Train's post is accurate, as I believe it to be, Brandon was also involved in the decision to draft Manuel. Thinking back a few years, I recall Marv describing the "consensus" approach to drafting the Bills had during his tenure as GM. One wonders how much role Brandon's input played in that "consensus."

Who owned the Bills back then?

What we have is a track record of a guy who's been giving football-related input for years. Input which, presumably, directly and significantly contributed to the longest active playoff drought in the NFL. We are told that it's possible to keep the guy, while getting rid of his bad football input, and his harmful, behind-the-scenes, football-related lobbying. Keeping a guy like that does not seem like the type of decision a Super Bowl-bound organization would make.

Which decision did Russ make that has caused us to miss the playoffs since Pegula was hired and moved him to the non-football aspect of the team?

Did Russ make the decision to hire Rex? Would Pegula have hired Rex by himself? Was Whaley completely against Rex? Would Pegula hire Rex if he didn't want him to be the coach? Why is Russ getting all of the crap for this hire when the Pegulas and Whaley are also to blame? Is it because he's the easy fall man? Do you like questions? Do you want more hypothetical questions that no one can really answer? What's the best number?

[OpIv37]

Re: Why Russ Brandon needs to go.

Ok.



Who owned the Bills back then?



Which decision did Russ make that has caused us to miss the playoffs since Pegula was hired and moved him to the non-football aspect of the team?

Did Russ make the decision to hire Rex? Would Pegula have hired Rex by himself? Was Whaley completely against Rex? Would Pegula hire Rex if he didn't want him to be the coach? Why is Russ getting all of the crap for this hire when the Pegulas and Whaley are also to blame? Is it because he's the easy fall man? Do you like questions? Do you want more hypothetical questions that no one can really answer? What's the best number?

No one knows the inner workings of the organization so no one knows specifically how much input Brandon had into any specific decision. What we do know is this:
1. Brandon has created an organizational culture where a healthy bottom line is more important than winning. Marketable decisions are valued over ones that help the team.
2. Players, coaches, GM's and even ownership have changed over the last decade. The only thing that has remained constant over that time period is Russ Brandon having a leadership role in the organization.

Yes, the Pegulas and Whaley have blood on their hands, but given #2, defense of Russ Brandon is unfathomable to me. As long as he is here, the possibility remains that he could be involved in- or at least influencing- football decisions, and that is inexcusable.

Pegula made the same mistake he did with the Sabres. He should have had a "scorched earth" policy from day 1 and ****-canned anyone with blood on their hands for any part of the 14 years or so before he took over. He's going to end up doing that anyway, and we will start rebuilding again next year or the year after when we should have started 2 years ago.

[Bill Cody]

Re: Why Russ Brandon needs to go.

No one knows the inner workings of the organization so no one knows specifically how much input Brandon had into any specific decision. What we do know is this:
1. Brandon has created an organizational culture where a healthy bottom line is more important than winning. Marketable decisions are valued over ones that help the team.
2. Players, coaches, GM's and even ownership have changed over the last decade. The only thing that has remained constant over that time period is Russ Brandon having a leadership role in the organization.

Yes, the Pegulas and Whaley have blood on their hands, but given #2, defense of Russ Brandon is unfathomable to me. As long as he is here, the possibility remains that he could be involved in- or at least influencing- football decisions, and that is inexcusable.

Pegula made the same mistake he did with the Sabres. He should have had a "scorched earth" policy from day 1 and ****-canned anyone with blood on their hands for any part of the 14 years or so before he took over. He's going to end up doing that anyway, and we will start rebuilding again next year or the year after when we should have started 2 years ago.

You would hope he will end up doing it anyway but with the Bills WTH knows? Three random guys from this board could have run this team from a basement better than the last decade and a half, not joking.

[Joe Fo Sho]

Re: Why Russ Brandon needs to go.

No one knows the inner workings of the organization so no one knows specifically how much input Brandon had into any specific decision. What we do know is this:
1. Brandon has created an organizational culture where a healthy bottom line is more important than winning. Marketable decisions are valued over ones that help the team.
2. Players, coaches, GM's and even ownership have changed over the last decade. The only thing that has remained constant over that time period is Russ Brandon having a leadership role in the organization.

Yes, the Pegulas and Whaley have blood on their hands, but given #2, defense of Russ Brandon is unfathomable to me. As long as he is here, the possibility remains that he could be involved in- or at least influencing- football decisions, and that is inexcusable.

Pegula made the same mistake he did with the Sabres. He should have had a "scorched earth" policy from day 1 and ****-canned anyone with blood on their hands for any part of the 14 years or so before he took over. He's going to end up doing that anyway, and we will start rebuilding again next year or the year after when we should have started 2 years ago.

I'd be all for getting rid of Russ if he were still in the position he was in over the last bunch of years when Ralph was owner. That's not the case anymore, at least I believe Pegula when he says that. A lot of people don't, which is fine, but can you answer my question?

Which decision did Russ make that has caused us to miss the playoffs since Pegula was hired and moved him to the non-football aspect of the team?