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  • paladin warrior
    All-Pro Zoner
    • Oct 2004
    • 3272

    #16
    Re: The Main Reason the Bills lost

    Bad Defense ..

    1. without Dareus Marcell.

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    • Victor7
      Registered User
      • Jul 2013
      • 1270

      #17
      Re: The Main Reason the Bills lost

      Originally posted by paladin warrior View Post
      Bad Defense ..

      1. without Dareus Marcell.
      Not saying he wouldn't have helped yesterday but ..... He's been missing all year long and we usually don't play this bad.

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      • mysticsoto
        Too sober for this...
        • Apr 2004
        • 31439

        #18
        Re: The Main Reason the Bills lost

        I placed the blame on our lines. Our Oline couldn't open up holes for Shady - frankly no surprise since they were playing 8 in the box and daring T-rod to beat us in the air. But the worse part is, they couldn't pass block either. T-rod had people in his face constantly and was running for his life most of the time. It probably didn't help that we only had average to below average receivers playing.

        On the Def side, the Dline should get most of the blame as well. Frankly, the front 7 are supposed to get in there and harass the qb or runner. They did neither. Tannehill had all day to throw, and when he didn't, we were getting gouged by their running back and pushed around. I don't care that they say Miami's Oline is beefier - that should also mean they are slower and perhaps even more prone to tire. Kyle Williams was invisible (perhaps being double teamed) and no one else picked up the slack. For a defense that is supposed to confuse the offense, Miami's Oline, QB and RB seemed to understand them perfectly and perfectly countered. When something isn't working, you need to have a plan B and we didn't - that part I'll blame on the coaching!

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        • Night Train
          Retired - On Several Levels
          • Jul 2005
          • 33117

          #19
          Re: The Main Reason the Bills lost

          The main reason the Bills lost is the failure of the D to stop the run.
          Anonymity is an abused privilege, abused most by people who mistake vitriol for wisdom and cynicism for wit

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          • ICRockets
            Legendary Zoner
            • Jul 2008
            • 12676

            #20
            Re: The Main Reason the Bills lost

            Originally posted by mysticsoto View Post
            I placed the blame on our lines. Our Oline couldn't open up holes for Shady - frankly no surprise since they were playing 8 in the box and daring T-rod to beat us in the air. But the worse part is, they couldn't pass block either. T-rod had people in his face constantly and was running for his life most of the time. It probably didn't help that we only had average to below average receivers playing.

            On the Def side, the Dline should get most of the blame as well. Frankly, the front 7 are supposed to get in there and harass the qb or runner. They did neither. Tannehill had all day to throw, and when he didn't, we were getting gouged by their running back and pushed around. I don't care that they say Miami's Oline is beefier - that should also mean they are slower and perhaps even more prone to tire. Kyle Williams was invisible (perhaps being double teamed) and no one else picked up the slack. For a defense that is supposed to confuse the offense, Miami's Oline, QB and RB seemed to understand them perfectly and perfectly countered. When something isn't working, you need to have a plan B and we didn't - that part I'll blame on the coaching!
            Piggy-backing on this point: I think the absence of Robert Woods was just as crucial in the run game as it was in the passing game. He is an incredible run blocking receiver, and without him a lot of plays where he makes crucial blocks on the outside simply weren't playcall options yesterday.

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            • mysticsoto
              Too sober for this...
              • Apr 2004
              • 31439

              #21
              Re: The Main Reason the Bills lost

              Originally posted by ICRockets View Post
              Piggy-backing on this point: I think the absence of Robert Woods was just as crucial in the run game as it was in the passing game. He is an incredible run blocking receiver, and without him a lot of plays where he makes crucial blocks on the outside simply weren't playcall options yesterday.
              True, although many times Shady was stopped at the line of scrimmage or before. The Oline was horrible - especially Jordan Mills - probably the worst I've seen him play - he was pwned big time!!!

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              • jamze132
                Don’t hate…
                • Jun 2003
                • 29410

                #22
                Re: The Main Reason the Bills lost

                We lost because we couldn't tackle. The end.

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                • ICRockets
                  Legendary Zoner
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 12676

                  #23
                  Re: The Main Reason the Bills lost

                  Originally posted by mysticsoto View Post
                  True, although many times Shady was stopped at the line of scrimmage or before. The Oline was horrible - especially Jordan Mills - probably the worst I've seen him play - he was pwned big time!!!
                  Yeah, I was willing to cut him some slack early because Cameron Wake is a pretty great player, but Mario was making Mills his ***** in the 4th. That's inexcusable.

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                  • Mace
                    Haha...yeah you think so ?
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 20315

                    #24
                    Re: The Main Reason the Bills lost

                    Originally posted by Night Train View Post
                    The main reason the Bills lost is the failure of the D to stop the run.
                    I'm going with this one. They were up 17-6.

                    If you stop the run (tackling better):
                    -Gillislee gets more carries, offense has more options
                    -Tannehill HAS to pass, you can tee off on him, that makes him shakier
                    -Taylor doesn't have to pass with an understrength receiving corps
                    -The O-line doesn't have to ineffectively pass block so much
                    -You don't have to sweat the hurry up offense you don't have

                    Everything all ties in with stopping Ajayi and Williams, imho.

                    I didn't grasp why they kept trying to tackle Ajayi high.....but for that matter Damian Williams carried people and he's only 212 lbs. Wasn't it Tackling 101, if someone has him high, wrap up his legs ? Why were we not adjusting ? I remember the Bills crowding the line faking blitz, I don't remember them stuffing the box. Almost seemed like they were more worried about Tannehill passing than Ajayi who was piling up yards carry after carry.

                    Maybe Ajayi is that good and their linemen are that much stronger than all of ours.

                    But stopping the run would have changed everything else, imho. Maybe they just couldn't. That's why we lost.

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                    • BuffaloRedleg
                      Registered User
                      • Aug 2013
                      • 1270

                      #25
                      Re: The Main Reason the Bills lost

                      The Bills lost for the same reason they have lost the last five times they went into Miami with a record.

                      There is something psychologically damaging about being a part of this franchise. Champions come here, players go off to be champions elsewhere, but this team just can't close. They know they are the Bills and they always have in the back of their head that we're going to blow it.

                      I think any sane person knew that literally the Billiest thing they could do was to blow this game with all the momentum and the upcoming Patriots showdown. They give you just enough of a taste to think about thinking you might let yourself think they'll finally turn it around. This game really had loss written all over it, we all shoulda known better.

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                      • djjimkelly
                        Registered User
                        • Apr 2003
                        • 7045

                        #26
                        Re: The Main Reason the Bills lost

                        the main reason we lost is our QB needs the team to rush for 200 + to win .


                        tyrod will never win a whole game with his arm. 1 drive here and there sure never when its all on his shoulders

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                        • Mace
                          Haha...yeah you think so ?
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 20315

                          #27
                          Re: The Main Reason the Bills lost

                          Originally posted by BuffaloRedleg View Post
                          The Bills lost for the same reason they have lost the last five times they went into Miami with a record.

                          There is something psychologically damaging about being a part of this franchise. Champions come here, players go off to be champions elsewhere, but this team just can't close. They know they are the Bills and they always have in the back of their head that we're going to blow it.

                          I think any sane person knew that literally the Billiest thing they could do was to blow this game with all the momentum and the upcoming Patriots showdown. They give you just enough of a taste to think about thinking you might let yourself think they'll finally turn it around. This game really had loss written all over it, we all shoulda known better.
                          Besides that though...

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                          • Mike13
                            Registered User
                            • Aug 2005
                            • 10567

                            #28
                            Re: The Main Reason the Bills lost

                            The main reason you lost is because Miami dominated you.

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                            • K-Gun
                              Deal with it
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 918

                              #29
                              Re: The Main Reason the Bills lost

                              Can we give the ****ing ball to Gillislee? He has 4 rushes for 40 yards. Maybe more than 1 rush per series would be a smart thing to do. Jesus Christ.
                              [W]e are busy that we may have leisure, and make war that we may live in peace...

                              [F]or no one chooses to be at war, or provokes war, for the sake of being at war; any one would seem absolutely murderous if he were to make enemies of his friends in order to bring about battle and slaughter...

                              - Aristotle

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