Dareus & Woods to be back for Patriot Game

[TacklingDummy]

Re: Dareus & Woods to be back for Patriot Game

First-team All-pros don't do much?

The Bills past 30 games...

Marcell Dareus

2016

Week 1: Nothing
Week 2: Nothing
Week 3: Nothing
Week 4: Nothing
Week 5: Nothing
Week 6: Nothing
Week 7: Nothing

2015

Week 1: Nothing
Weeks 2-17: 31 Tackles, 2 Sacks

2014

Week 17: Nothing
Weeks 11-16: 13 Tackles, 0 Sacks

In the Bills last 30 games he has 44 tackles and 2 sacks.

Well worth $108 Million.

Fools Gold.

[feldspar]

Re: Dareus & Woods to be back for Patriot Game

Marcell Dareus

2014

Week 17: Nothing
Weeks 11-16: 13 Tackles, 0 Sacks
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First-team All-pros NEVER do "nothing." This is a rule.

You want to look at the stats of a Defensive Tackle who is constantly double-teamed and judge him based on that, then I question your knowledge of the position.

[TacklingDummy]

Re: Dareus & Woods to be back for Patriot Game

First-team All-pros NEVER do "nothing." This is a rule.

You want to look at the stats of a Defensive Tackle who is constantly double-teamed and judge him based on that, then I question your knowledge of the position.

Even if he was "constantly double-teamed" (which he wasn't), plenty of players get double teamed and put up more than 2 sacks in the past 30 games.

[YardRat]

Re: Dareus & Woods to be back for Patriot Game

Fred Smerlas had 18.5 sacks in 14 seasons, just over 1 per year. 10 of those came in two seasons.

[feldspar]

Re: Dareus & Woods to be back for Patriot Game

Fred Smerlas had 18.5 sacks in 14 seasons, just over 1 per year. 10 of those came in two seasons.

Exactly why only somebody that doesn't understand the game would judge an interior lineman by his stats.

[Mr. Cynical]

Re: Dareus & Woods to be back for Patriot Game

Before passing judgement, let's see how their sack totals and run yards against go over the next 9 games. If they get better, pretty much going to know why.

[Mace]

Re: Dareus & Woods to be back for Patriot Game

Before passing judgement, let's see how their sack totals and run yards against go over the next 9 games. If they get better, pretty much going to know why.

Wholeheartedly agree.

[TacklingDummy]

Re: Dareus & Woods to be back for Patriot Game

Fred Smerlas had 18.5 sacks in 14 seasons, just over 1 per year. 10 of those came in two seasons.

Apples and oranges.

When Fred played it wasn't the pass happy league it is now. He also wasn't the 3rd pick in the draft.

[feldspar]

Re: Dareus & Woods to be back for Patriot Game

Apples and oranges.

When Fred played it wasn't the pass happy league it is now. He also wasn't the 3rd pick in the draft.

You wouldn't know an apple if I threw one at your head, apparently.

They didn't used to sack the quarterback back then? Yes they did.

You don't look at stats to judge a guy like Dareus at his position, generally. Vince Wilfork made First-team All-pro four years back, and he had THREE sacks that year. His tackle numbers were underwhelming as well. Why did he he make First-team All-pro with those stats? Could be because of his role...the position he plays.

Ya think?

You could find several other examples as well. Learn something maybe.

[swiper]

Re: Dareus & Woods to be back for Patriot Game

Apples and oranges.

When Fred played it wasn't the pass happy league it is now. He also wasn't the 3rd pick in the draft.

Smerlas was a true NT in a pure 3-4 defense. Dareus is a DT.

Moreover, Smerlas didn't take plays off like Dareus does.

[feldspar]

Re: Dareus & Woods to be back for Patriot Game

Smerlas was a true NT in a pure 3-4 defense. Dareus is a DT.

We'll see about that.

Could be that Dareus will play more of a true NT in Rex's defense this year, from here on out. He's done it before, too.

Moreover, Smerlas didn't take plays off like Dareus does.

Yes he did.

[swiper]

Re: Dareus & Woods to be back for Patriot Game

LOL. You don't pay enough attention.

[feldspar]

Re: Dareus & Woods to be back for Patriot Game

LOL. You don't pay enough attention.

Sat at the 50-yard-line during the Smerlas years

..with binoculars