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  • Ginger Vitis
    Registered User
    • Feb 2009
    • 3451

    #31
    Re: Time for Eichel to step up

    Originally posted by coastal View Post
    Mike Bossy
    Ray Bourque
    Wayne Gretzky
    Mark Messier
    Sydney Crosby
    Jaromir Jagr
    Mario Lemieux
    Connor McDavid

    Those are generational talents... Jack Eichel isn't in the same league as any of these players.

    I consider Eric Lindros to have been a generational talent entering the NHL

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    • coastal
      Legendary Zoner
      • Mar 2005
      • 15513

      #32
      Re: Time for Eichel to step up

      Originally posted by Ginger Vitis View Post
      I consider Eric Lindros to have been a generational talent entering the NHL
      Agreed... concussions got the best of him.

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      • coastal
        Legendary Zoner
        • Mar 2005
        • 15513

        #33
        Re: Time for Eichel to step up

        Originally posted by JATMtheJATM View Post
        Or tavares or stamkos
        He has a lot to prove to earn that distinction IMO.

        I'm curious to see what he produces down the stretch once it becomes mathematically clearer we're out of contention.

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        • coastal
          Legendary Zoner
          • Mar 2005
          • 15513

          #34
          Re: Time for Eichel to step up

          Originally posted by Swiper View Post
          Different players. Different situations. So you can STFU yourself.
          How is it different?

          1a.
          1b.

          same draft year.

          One is the the captain of his team, is 4th in pts/game, leading the league in points and assists, and has his team in playoff contention.

          The other one isn't a captain, is tied for 68th in pts/game, tied for 230th in points, and threw one lockeroom temper tantrum on a team that is currently in strong contention for the draft lotto.

          It's time for him to step up and take some ownership.

          right.

          ****ing.

          now.

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          • coastal
            Legendary Zoner
            • Mar 2005
            • 15513

            #35
            Re: Time for Eichel to step up

            Originally posted by Ginger Vitis View Post
            I consider Eric Lindros to have been a generational talent entering the NHL
            Oh... and Hasek. He was the best ever.

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            • JATMtheJATM
              Registered User
              • Aug 2012
              • 59230

              #36
              Re: Time for Eichel to step up

              Originally posted by coastal View Post
              He has a lot to prove to earn that distinction IMO.

              I'm curious to see what he produces down the stretch once it becomes mathematically clearer we're out of contention.
              Numbers wise, he's on par with tavares and almost jagr too
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              • coastal
                Legendary Zoner
                • Mar 2005
                • 15513

                #37
                Re: Time for Eichel to step up

                Originally posted by JATMtheJATM View Post
                Numbers wise, he's on par with tavares and almost jagr too
                Tavares = .91 points/game
                Jagr = 1.14 points/game
                Eichel = .70 points/game

                um... not really.

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                • JATMtheJATM
                  Registered User
                  • Aug 2012
                  • 59230

                  #38
                  Re: Time for Eichel to step up

                  Originally posted by coastal View Post
                  Tavares = .91 points/game
                  Jagr = 1.14 points/game
                  Eichel = .70 points/game

                  um... not really.
                  Through this stage of their career. Sorry. After a season and a half
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                  • coastal
                    Legendary Zoner
                    • Mar 2005
                    • 15513

                    #39
                    Re: Time for Eichel to step up

                    Jagr through 1st two years = .84 points/game
                    Jagr 3rd year = 1.16 points/game

                    Tavares through 1st two years = .66
                    Tavres 3rd year = 1 points/game

                    Eichel through 1.5 years = .7
                    Eichel 3rd year = time to step up and prove it at 1 point/game for the next 5+ years just like Tavares has.

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                    • JATMtheJATM
                      Registered User
                      • Aug 2012
                      • 59230

                      #40
                      Re: Time for Eichel to step up

                      Originally posted by coastal View Post
                      Jagr through 1st two years = .84 points/game
                      Jagr 3rd year = 1.16 points/game

                      Tavares through 1st two years = .66
                      Tavres 3rd year = 1 points/game

                      Eichel through 1.5 years = .7
                      Eichel 3rd year = time to step up and prove it at 1 point/game for the next 5+ years just like Tavares has.
                      Well, for sure Eichel has to step up and prove that distinction, but we can't hold something against him when he hasn't gotten to that road yet. To me, so far, Eichel is right there. He also needs guys to play with. Not ****ing gionta and foligno
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                      • coastal
                        Legendary Zoner
                        • Mar 2005
                        • 15513

                        #41
                        Re: Time for Eichel to step up

                        Originally posted by JATMtheJATM View Post
                        Well, for sure Eichel has to step up and prove that distinction, but we can't hold something against him when he hasn't gotten to that road yet. To me, so far, Eichel is right there. He also needs guys to play with. Not ****ing gionta and foligno
                        Totally agree. Evander Kane isn't the right guy either.

                        Give him Vanek on the right side... not sure who on the left... curious about what Nylander brings to the table. I've also heard that Arizona may have soured on duclair.

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                        • Swiper
                          Registered User
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 33105

                          #42
                          Re: Time for Eichel to step up

                          Originally posted by coastal View Post
                          How is it different?

                          1a.
                          1b.

                          same draft year.

                          One is the the captain of his team, is 4th in pts/game, leading the league in points and assists, and has his team in playoff contention.

                          The other one isn't a captain, is tied for 68th in pts/game, tied for 230th in points, and threw one lockeroom temper tantrum on a team that is currently in strong contention for the draft lotto.

                          It's time for him to step up and take some ownership.

                          right.

                          ****ing.

                          now.
                          They were different players. McDavid went first for a reason. Everyone agreed he was that generational player. Calm down and give it another year, would ya? This team is a cluster ****.

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                          • coastal
                            Legendary Zoner
                            • Mar 2005
                            • 15513

                            #43
                            Re: Time for Eichel to step up

                            Originally posted by Swiper View Post
                            They were different players. McDavid went first for a reason. Everyone agreed he was that generational player. Calm down and give it another year, would ya? This team is a cluster ****.
                            I'm sick and tired of giving it another year...

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                            • JATMtheJATM
                              Registered User
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 59230

                              #44
                              Re: Time for Eichel to step up

                              Originally posted by coastal View Post
                              Totally agree. Evander Kane isn't the right guy either.

                              Give him Vanek on the right side... not sure who on the left... curious about what Nylander brings to the table. I've also heard that Arizona may have soured on duclair.
                              I like the duclair idea
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                              • JATMtheJATM
                                Registered User
                                • Aug 2012
                                • 59230

                                #45
                                Re: Time for Eichel to step up

                                Originally posted by coastal View Post
                                Totally agree. Evander Kane isn't the right guy either.

                                Give him Vanek on the right side... not sure who on the left... curious about what Nylander brings to the table. I've also heard that Arizona may have soured on duclair.
                                For the record, I'd bring gionta back next year for leadership. He's not dead weight. But I'd move him at the deadline for parts
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