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    Re: Sal Capaccio Thinks The Bills Will Roll With Cardale Jones In '17

    Quote Originally Posted by BertSquirtgum View Post
    Buddy Nix did.
    "I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said on NFL Network's "NFL Total Access" on Thursday. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."
    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...ej-manuel-pick

    Or is he just a shameless liar ? Doesn't really matter, both results are woeful.

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    Re: Sal Capaccio Thinks The Bills Will Roll With Cardale Jones In '17

    Quote Originally Posted by BertSquirtgum View Post
    Buddy Nix did.
    Sweater vest wearing child molester looking creep that he was...

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    Re: Sal Capaccio Thinks The Bills Will Roll With Cardale Jones In '17

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    Sweater vest wearing child molester looking creep that he was...
    I noticed that too. Or, he was the folksy guy you bought your fresh produce from while he was giving you the best he voided his wastes on.

    "Why, this is the best crop of tomatoes ! (I ever urinated on you jerk) "They remind me of down home !" (where I was arrested many times among the crops)

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    Re: Sal Capaccio Thinks The Bills Will Roll With Cardale Jones In '17

    Quote Originally Posted by BertSquirtgum View Post
    Buddy Nix did.
    No he didn't.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...ej-manuel-pick

    Nix had one foot out the door at that point. What was he going to do? Publicly question the pick? No. The pick was 100% Whaley.

    Marrone went along b/c he had no choice. He was new and knew he needed a QB.

    Pick was 100% Whaley.

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    Re: Sal Capaccio Thinks The Bills Will Roll With Cardale Jones In '17

    Nix still officially held the GM spot but had passed the torch already to Whaley who, in his own words, is responsible for Manuel. I'm not sure what people aren't understanding about that.

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    Re: Sal Capaccio Thinks The Bills Will Roll With Cardale Jones In '17

    Quote Originally Posted by DynaPaul View Post
    Nix still officially held the GM spot but had passed the torch already to Whaley who, in his own words, is responsible for Manuel. I'm not sure what people aren't understanding about that.
    Not defending Whaley at al. Wish him gone. But Ralph told Nix to pick his QB before leaving and he selected Manuel. That was well known.

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    Re: Sal Capaccio Thinks The Bills Will Roll With Cardale Jones In '17

    Quote Originally Posted by Night Train View Post
    Not defending Whaley at al. Wish him gone. But Ralph told Nix to pick his QB before leaving and he selected Manuel. That was well known.
    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...ej-manuel-pick

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    Re: Sal Capaccio Thinks The Bills Will Roll With Cardale Jones In '17

    Quote Originally Posted by Night Train View Post
    Not defending Whaley at al. Wish him gone. But Ralph told Nix to pick his QB before leaving and he selected Manuel. That was well known.
    That's fine but Whaley still scouted him and ranked him highest on the board.

    The Buffalo Bills raised plenty of eyebrows after taking EJ Manuel with the No. 16 pick in the 2013 NFL Draft, making him the first quarterback to go off the board. New general manager Doug Whaley isn't shy about taking ownership of the pick, even if he was second-in-command to Buddy Nix at the time.

    "I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said on NFL Network's "NFL Total Access" on Thursday. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."

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    Re: Sal Capaccio Thinks The Bills Will Roll With Cardale Jones In '17

    Quote Originally Posted by Swiper View Post
    No he didn't.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...ej-manuel-pick

    Nix had one foot out the door at that point. What was he going to do? Publicly question the pick? No. The pick was 100% Whaley.

    Marrone went along b/c he had no choice. He was new and knew he needed a QB.

    Pick was 100% Whaley.
    Buddy Nix drafted EJ Manuel

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    Re: Sal Capaccio Thinks The Bills Will Roll With Cardale Jones In '17

    I question everything Sal has said since the "Bill Cowher will be the Bills HC story." But, it served it's purpose, he got a job out of that story. But, if this story does turn out to be true, Doug Whaley's GM career will be over and McDermott's time in Buffalo will be short.

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    Re: Sal Capaccio Thinks The Bills Will Roll With Cardale Jones In '17

    I'm OK with Whaley being strapped with the EJ pick regardless of whether or not it was he who actually pulled the trigger. I don't think it's as egregious an error to have whiffed on it as some do, however.

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    Re: Sal Capaccio Thinks The Bills Will Roll With Cardale Jones In '17

    If Whaley scouted EJ ,thought he was the top qb in his class ,reflected that on their draft board, that would make him integral. Doesnt mean he made the decision to draft EJ with the bills' first pick. Nix still could have made that call and I beleive he did after that phone call about Fitz being a back up.

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    Re: Sal Capaccio Thinks The Bills Will Roll With Cardale Jones In '17

    Nix/Whaley pulled the trigger on Manuel in 2013 and failed.

    BUT...at least they did draft the best QB out of the entire field that year, which was a horrible crop of QBs.

    Few people thought Dak Prescott would become a franchise QB after being drafted in the 4th round (135th pick) of the 2016 NFL Draft.

    The Bills drafted Cardale Jones with the 139th pick.

    In the last game of the season vs. the Jets, Cardale Jones outperformed EJ Manuel in a single quarter.

    Given the situation, that should have never happened, but it did happen.

    All the Jets had to do on defense was pin their ears back and go after Jones.

    No rookie QB making their first appearance at the very last crap end of a season/football game (that was already won) had no business throwing for 96 yards against the Jets, but it happened.

    Most of us were half in the bag by then, drowning in our 17 year drought full of sorrows...but I saw a glimpse of hope.

    In 3 quarters of play against the Jets, EJ Manuel completed 9 out of 20 pass attempts for 86 yards.

    In 1 quarter of play against the Jets, Cardale Jones completed 6 out of 11 pass attempts for 96 yards and the Bills only scoring drive that resulted in a TD.

    Put Cardale's debut performance in context - rookie QB, 4th quarter in the last game of the season, down 23-3.

    I don't think anyone expected him to play better than EJ Manuel and outperform him in 15 minutes, but it happened.

    3rd string QB Cardale Jones beats Alabama?

    Impossible.

    But it happened.


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    Re: Sal Capaccio Thinks The Bills Will Roll With Cardale Jones In '17

    Quote Originally Posted by YardRat View Post
    I'm OK with Whaley being strapped with the EJ pick regardless of whether or not it was he who actually pulled the trigger. I don't think it's as egregious an error to have whiffed on it as some do, however.

    Show me a GM that didn't screw up a draft pick, trade, or FA signing on a QB and I'll show you a GM that never tried to get one.
    It changes things for me a bit. EJ was a 4th round player at best. It's a dreadful whiff.

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