bill polian likes chad kelly

[jimmifli]

He said Kelly may be the most talented QB in the draft. And he also provided a huge caveat.

The psychological testing is really, really important," Polian said on ESPN's Mike and Mike this week. "The background goes without saying. By the way, the most talented quarterback in the draft is probably Chad Kelly, but he has a ton of baggage," Polian said. "So you get that out of the way immediately."

Note that he emphasized the importance of the psych testing, preceding "important" with "really"...2x.

And when he talked about Kelly's baggage, he didn't say he had "some" or "a bit". He used the word "ton".

Polian was a great GM because of his thoroughness. He left as little to chance as possible.

Based on Kelly's history, and repeated episodes of questionable behavior, his digging into the mind of Chad Kelly would be substantial, his friendship with the Kelly's notwithstanding.

Guys don't get bigger, or more accurate or learn to make decisions faster once they're in the NFL. But there are lots of guys that do finally grow up.

If we were talking about a 1st round pick, yeah, no thanks. But a third? He's got the tools, maybe he'll figure out the rest of it. And if not we missed out on this year's Coy Wire or TJ Graham.

[WagonCircler]

Guys don't get bigger, or more accurate or learn to make decisions faster once they're in the NFL. But there are lots of guys that do finally grow up.

If we were talking about a 1st round pick, yeah, no thanks. But a third? He's got the tools, maybe he'll figure out the rest of it. And if not we missed out on this year's Coy Wire or TJ Graham.

Exactly!

If Chad didn't have the baggage, he'd be a top 5 pick.

Speaking in the context of Chad Kelly going to Buffalo in the 3rd or 4th round, you're not going to get a guy with his talent and no baggage.

I'd much rather have a guy with maturity issues than unfixable mechanical problems, poor accuracy or the inability to read and react to Defenses.

Chad is a gamble, but if he comes through, you end up with a guy with real upside, as opposed to a guy like EJ, who clearly was never going to overcome his performance issues.

[Mace]

I've said it before may as well say it again, don't know how his maturity develops, but he's the least likely QB in this draft to get screwed up by having a WR coach and assistant WR coach as his QB coaches, though it won't help sharpen him any. Kelly is likely now to plunge and for 3rd or even 5th, maybe 6th, I wouldn't mind any.

First thing he does though is move in with Uncle Jim on a curfew.

[BillsImpossible]

Imagine what things would have been like for Jim Kelly and many other quarterbacks back in the 1980's and early 1990's if the Internet and social media existed back then....

Jim Kelly, Dan Marino, and John Elway were anything but angels back in the day.

Draft Kelly in the 3rd or 4th round, let him compete with Cardale Jones for the starting job and let history play out.

He's got a "ton of baggage," but I don't think his luggage weighs nearly as much as Ray Lewis's baggage.

[Mace]

Imagine what things would have been like for Jim Kelly and many other quarterbacks back in the 1980's and early 1990's if the Internet and social media existed back then....

Jim Kelly, Dan Marino, and John Elway were anything but angels back in the day.

Draft Kelly in the 3rd or 4th round, let him compete with Cardale Jones for the starting job and let history play out.

He's got a "ton of baggage," but I don't think his luggage weighs nearly as much as Ray Lewis's baggage.

Actually, I remember Elway being about as insipidly squeaky clean as they come. Despised him for it.

Back then you looked for players with personality. Now they have too much and you want less.

[cookie G]

Guys don't get bigger, or more accurate or learn to make decisions faster once they're in the NFL. But there are lots of guys that do finally grow up.

If we were talking about a 1st round pick, yeah, no thanks. But a third? He's got the tools, maybe he'll figure out the rest of it. And if not we missed out on this year's Coy Wire or TJ Graham.

I have 0 problem with using a 3rd on him. We're on the same page in talking about drafting a QB until you find one.

I'd go you one further. If I were GM and drafted him in the 3rd, I'd be seeking an eval. and treatment for him at the Menninger Clinic. (the place where Brett Favre kicked his pain killer addiction).

Many might see that as drastic, or trying to label him negatively, but I don't see it that way. I see it as little different than going to Dr. James Andrews for his knee. Its simply a method of repairing a weakness that adversely affects him as a player.

The "baggage" could be due to immaturity, it could be a personality disorder, it could be a chemical issue for all I know.

And that's why I'd leave the eval. and the treatment to the best mental health specialists I could find.

If he's going to have a shot at being the next franchise QB, he's not getting there based on past conduct. But it also might be fixable.

[Mr. Miyagi]

Does Marv Levy have a grandson that could coach?

Does Bruce's son play football?

What about Andre? Does he have a nephew too?

Let's get the gang back together. It's like Saved by the Bell: College Years.

[jimmifli]

We're on the same page in talking about drafting a QB until you find one.

Why stop then?

[HHURRICANE]

The Bills won't take Chad Kelly because he's too much baggage for the front office. Like Jim calling everyday asking when is nephew is starting?!

[WagonCircler]

I have 0 problem with using a 3rd on him. We're on the same page in talking about drafting a QB until you find one.

I'd go you one further. If I were GM and drafted him in the 3rd, I'd be seeking an eval. and treatment for him at the Menninger Clinic. (the place where Brett Favre kicked his pain killer addiction).

Many might see that as drastic, or trying to label him negatively, but I don't see it that way. I see it as little different than going to Dr. James Andrews for his knee. Its simply a method of repairing a weakness that adversely affects him as a player.

The "baggage" could be due to immaturity, it could be a personality disorder, it could be a chemical issue for all I know.

And that's why I'd leave the eval. and the treatment to the best mental health specialists I could find.

If he's going to have a shot at being the next franchise QB, he's not getting there based on past conduct. But it also might be fixable.

The baggage is due, in large part, to the horrendous influence of the internet and social media. We are watching a generation of idiots prolonging their immaturity thanks to the garbage-in-garbage out pop culture perpetuated by the YouTubes and Instagrams and SnapChats of the world.

I'm not sure if this generation will ever fully come to be adults. All we can do is hope.

The saddest thing about Chad is that he has a great, hard working role model (his dad) who has worked his ass off to raise his family. And despite this, and an decent education, Chad speaks and behaves like a wannabe hood rat.

A gamble is a gamble, and there's certainly no guarantee the Chad will grow up, but I've known his family for 30 years now, and I've witnessed the capacity for maturation. My bet is that he has it in him.

[swiper]

The baggage is due, in large part, to the horrendous influence of the internet and social media. We are watching a generation of idiots prolonging their immaturity thanks to the garbage-in-garbage out pop culture perpetuated by the YouTubes and Instagrams and SnapChats of the world.

I'm not sure if this generation will ever fully come to be adults. All we can do is hope.

The saddest thing about Chad is that he has a great, hard working role model (his dad) who has worked his ass off to raise his family. And despite this, and an decent education, Chad speaks and behaves like a wannabe hood rat.

A gamble is a gamble, and there's certainly no guarantee the Chad will grow up, but I've known his family for 30 years now, and I've witnessed the capacity for maturation. My bet is that he has it in him.

You know what can fix that? The right woman.

[Joe Fo Sho]

I'm not sure if this generation will ever fully come to be adults. All we can do is hope.

- Every generation about the next one

[jimmifli]

The baggage is due, in large part, to the horrendous influence of the internet and social media. We are watching a generation of idiots prolonging their immaturity thanks to the garbage-in-garbage out pop culture perpetuated by the YouTubes and Instagrams and SnapChats of the world.

I'm not sure if this generation will ever fully come to be adults. All we can do is hope.

LOL

[Bill Cody]

The Bills won't take Chad Kelly because he's too much baggage for the front office. Like Jim calling everyday asking when is nephew is starting?!

Jim: "when's Chad starting?"

Whalen: "I don't know, we're going to see what we have with EJ and Cardale"

Jim: "So you figure, what, Sunday?"

[Night Train]

The issues with the supposed top 5 guys is experience and playing out of the shotgun/spread. Then you add in their actual level of talent and you are an organization reaching. None are true 1st rounders. They are not pro ready.

If you gamble on Kelly from round 3 on...it's not much of a gamble. He's the most pro ready.

We traded away a first for Bledsoe, Drafted Manuel and Losman in the 1st Round, Todd Collins in the 2nd round. Gave Rob Johnson 25 Mil. All since Jim Kelly left. Remind me how good that worked out. Our only real winning was done by 5 foot nothing Flutie.

Picking him from round 3 on isn't much of a gamble. Look at all the bums we've selected in round 3 the last 20 years.

This is a QB. Not some track guy trying to win the #5 WR spot.

[jimmifli]

So it looks like Chad in the 3rd would be quite popular.

QBs often go earlier than they should, so how would you feel about a 2nd round pick?

[Mace]

So it looks like Chad in the 3rd would be quite popular.

QBs often go earlier than they should, so how would you feel about a 2nd round pick?

CBS sports (always use their drafts in the simulator, they're pretty close to relative value) has the Chad as a 6th rounder atm, so taking him earlier might mean the 5th. Coming off the knee there's not going to be much he can do to improve his stock without combine interviews, imho.

[Mace]

The baggage is due, in large part, to the horrendous influence of the internet and social media. We are watching a generation of idiots prolonging their immaturity thanks to the garbage-in-garbage out pop culture perpetuated by the YouTubes and Instagrams and SnapChats of the world.

I'm not sure if this generation will ever fully come to be adults. All we can do is hope.

The saddest thing about Chad is that he has a great, hard working role model (his dad) who has worked his ass off to raise his family. And despite this, and an decent education, Chad speaks and behaves like a wannabe hood rat.

A gamble is a gamble, and there's certainly no guarantee the Chad will grow up, but I've known his family for 30 years now, and I've witnessed the capacity for maturation. My bet is that he has it in him.

I sort of agree with you in general, I mean the information/internet age seems to be making people more ignorant, but Kelly is unfortunately not the norm coming out of college. I'm not convinced a good scare won't shake him into focus, but I worry too that he'll get BMIB complex (Big Man In Buffalo) without the chops to pull it off.

I'd probably still take a swing on him though for previously stated reasons. Two WR QB coaches won't mess him up so much and matured Uncle Jim would surely step in and smack him around with a Hall of Fame jacket for context.

[stuckincincy]

The baggage is due, in large part, to the horrendous influence of the internet and social media. We are watching a generation of idiots prolonging their immaturity thanks to the garbage-in-garbage out pop culture perpetuated by the YouTubes and Instagrams and SnapChats of the world.

I'm not sure if this generation will ever fully come to be adults. All we can do is hope.

Put the 2006 movie, Idiocracy on your must-see list:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiocracy

[djjimkelly]

You know what can fix that? The right woman.

and the wrong one can set you back