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    Buffalo Bills paying three receivers same as 49ers paying Marquise Goodwin

    The 2016 season made it clear — the Buffalo Bills needed to make upgrades to their wide receiver group in 2017, both in the quality and quantity departments. They lost Robert Woods and Marquise Goodwin — starters in 2016 — in free agency, and gained Andre Holmes, Philly Brown, and Jeremy Butler.
    Woods is a fine talent who wasn’t able to consistently produce in Buffalo. Some believe that was mostly on the quarterbacks he had. Others believe it was mainly due to a lack of top-level upside or physical ability. To me, the true culprit of Woods’ unreliability lands somewhere in between those two schools of thought.
    There was almost no doubt Goodwin would sign elsewhere after a four-year stint with the Bills in which he had significant issues staying healthy and developing into a steady target at the intermediate level or on the deep ball.
    Soon after free agency began, Goodwin signed with the San Francisco 49ers. His deal with San Francisco compared to what Buffalo paid for Holmes, Brown, and Butler is fascinating.


    San Francisco 49ers
    Marquise Goodwin
    2 years, $6 million
    Average per year: $3 million
    Buffalo Bills
    Andre Holmes
    3 years, $5.15 million
    Average per year: $1.76 million
    Philly Brown
    1 year, $690,000
    Average per year: $690,00


    Jeremy Butler
    1 year, $625,000
    Annual per year: $625,000
    Combined annual per year payments of Holmes, Brown, and Butler: $3.08 million
    Buffalo managed to sign three wideouts for the price of Goodwin to sign in San Francisco with the 49ers. With the NFL salary cap now at $167 million, the extra 80,000 for the Bills in this equation is essentially chump change. Also, Goodwin has $2 million in incentives that are reportedly “very much in reach.”
    There are some things to keep in mind. Butler and Brown are on one-year contracts. Also, the 49ers went into free agency with a ridiculous amount of cap space, so there’s an argument out there that they kinda-sorta had to spend big. Although there’s also a logical argument that frivolous spending shouldn’t ever happen, regardless of cap room.
    In his four-year NFL career, Goodwin has appeared in 39 games. He’s caught 49 passes for 780 yards with six touchdowns. That equates to 1.3 receptions and 20 yards receiving per game.
    Over the past four years — in 58 games — with the Raiders, Holmes has 100 grabs, 1,450 yards, and 12 touchdowns, which equals 1.7 catches and 25 receiving yards per outing.
    Brown had 79 receptions for 1,019 yards and seven scores in 43 games over a three-year stretch with the Panthers. That’s 1.7 snags and 23.7 yards per contest.
    Butler is the least experienced and least productive member here but the most efficient. In 12 career NFL games, he has 33 catches and 373 yards. That equates to 2.8 receptions and 31.2 yards per game.
    The Bills had a decent amount of money to spend in free agency, and there’s no doubting their shrewd way they counteracted Goodwin’s departure.




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    Re: Buffalo Bills paying three receivers same as 49ers paying Marquise Goodwin

    Time will tell if this means anything. Goodwin was certainly progressing, but his hands were still that of a mid-level college receiver. It wont be hard for any of these guys to surpass his production but the speed factor surely forced defenses to account for Goodwin. With these scrubs most coaches will just let their scrubs cover them until they prove they can do anything.
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    Re: Buffalo Bills paying three receivers same as 49ers paying Marquise Goodwin

    Pegula is cheap

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    Re: Buffalo Bills paying three receivers same as 49ers paying Marquise Goodwin

    I got a bargain! I had dinner at McDonald's!

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    Re: Buffalo Bills paying three receivers same as 49ers paying Marquise Goodwin

    Goodwin stinks like monkey butt
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    Re: Buffalo Bills paying three receivers same as 49ers paying Marquise Goodwin

    And all 3 have been more productive players than Marquise Goodwin.

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    Re: Buffalo Bills paying three receivers same as 49ers paying Marquise Goodwin

    The problem is last year we went into the preseason with arguably better WRs

    Little-Hankersin-Boykin
    Philly-Holmes-Butler

    Along with having Woods

    I do like Philly and Holmes but worry that this is identical to what we rolled with last year

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    Re: Buffalo Bills paying three receivers same as 49ers paying Marquise Goodwin

    We win the bargain shopper trophy because we're forced to shop for bargains against a team with 5 times the cap space.

    Woo.

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    Re: Buffalo Bills paying three receivers same as 49ers paying Marquise Goodwin

    Quote Originally Posted by Mace View Post
    We win the bargain shopper trophy because we're forced to shop for bargains against a team with 5 times the cap space.

    Woo.
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    Re: Buffalo Bills paying three receivers same as 49ers paying Marquise Goodwin

    Nah, I'll end up looking stupid for saying it and you can heckle me. It's my gift to you.

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    Re: Buffalo Bills paying three receivers same as 49ers paying Marquise Goodwin

    Quote Originally Posted by Mace View Post
    Nah, I'll end up looking stupid for saying it and you can heckle me. It's my gift to you.
    My phone does it all the time. If I press enter to put my cursor lower it sometimes will post the reply before I can write on it. I was going to agree with you in part

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    Re: Buffalo Bills paying three receivers same as 49ers paying Marquise Goodwin

    How does a guy who's played like 8 games in 3 years get 3 million a year?

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    Re: Buffalo Bills paying three receivers same as 49ers paying Marquise Goodwin

    Other than that bomb he caught against the Jets on Thursday Night, I honestly don't remember him doing much here...

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    Re: Buffalo Bills paying three receivers same as 49ers paying Marquise Goodwin

    The Bills will be able to, and probably will, get the best WR in the draft. And he'll be far better and cheaper than Woods.

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    Re: Buffalo Bills paying three receivers same as 49ers paying Marquise Goodwin

    Wally saw this posted elsewhere.

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    Cost for #Bills to sign Andre Holmes, Philly Brown, and Jeremy Butler = Marquise Goodwin's deal with 49ers. Amazing.

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    Re: Buffalo Bills paying three receivers same as 49ers paying Marquise Goodwin

    The only thing Bills fans will remember about Marquise Goodwin is that he was hurt more than Roscoe Parish. That, in itself, is a feat. Goodwin ****ing blows and I'm so happy he's off the roster of my favorite team.

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    Re: Buffalo Bills paying three receivers same as 49ers paying Marquise Goodwin

    I'm honestly shocked that Goodwin got anything besides vet minimum. He's a one trick pony who struggles to stay healthy, I'm baffled how he ended up getting $6 million. Good for him, I'm just glad it wasn't on the Bills.


    Holmes might not have the burner speed, but has much better size, has been healthy, can play special teams, and came at roughly half the cost. Seems like the Bills got the much better deal here.

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    Thumbs down Re: Buffalo Bills paying three receivers same as 49ers paying Marquise Goodwin

    I know right...

    Also, what a surprise he stays somewhat healthy on a contract year...
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    Re: Buffalo Bills paying three receivers same as 49ers paying Marquise Goodwin

    Goodwin's effect on a defense is more substantial than all 3 however. His production might be spotty (partly because of misuse) but the D must account for his deep speed threat. John Lynch and Kyle Shannahan know a LITTLE bit about football.

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    Re: Buffalo Bills paying three receivers same as 49ers paying Marquise Goodwin

    Quote Originally Posted by Mouldsie View Post
    Goodwin's effect on a defense is more substantial than all 3 however. His production might be spotty (partly because of misuse) but the D must account for his deep speed threat. John Lynch and Kyle Shannahan know a LITTLE bit about football.
    Kolby Listenbee is bigger and faster. He can fill the Goodwin role.

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