whaley fired

[Mace]

Re: whaley fired

The part i question is... is he out of the pegulas life completely or just as the bills gm...

Sabres need a GM.

[sahlensguy]

Re: whaley fired

Sabres need a GM.

Zing

[Guest]

Re: whaley fired

Sabres need a GM.

Oh....I miss Rainman already.

[Mace]

Re: whaley fired

So the scouting reports didn't go in the shredder from the scouts. Timing is everything.

The scouting reports from the scouts they will also fire ?

Besides that, hard to believe they would only have one copy of info and it would be in Whaley's briefcase.

[cookie G]

Re: whaley fired

You're next Russ.

I'll believe it when I see it.

[WagonCircler]

Re: whaley fired

After all, Russ Brandon was behind firing Doug Whaley. Right?

I don't know where you're getting that from.

Not that I'm a fan of Russ...

Great job, Russ!

Well, it would appear t hat you are. So....

[cookie G]

Re: whaley fired

Absolutely...and it's still the most acceptable plan we've had in 17 years of floundering. Ralph once lost his mind (1978) and gave all the controls to Chuck Knox, who turned the team around quickly and made the Bills a good team. Then he went cheap and Knox was gone. Knox got the ultimate raw deal.

Single minded leadership can work with the right help surrounding him. I'll let him bring in some of the Carolina people and see if it works. Let's give him a fair shake.

He had a good weekend wheeling and dealing. Now we have talent and two #1's next year. So far, so good. Can't coach a game for months... so let him do the work he can do to improve this organization which has been without direction for far too long.

The difference is that Chuck Knox had won 5 division championships in 5 years with the Rams.

As Buddo put so well, the ones who are given the keys to the entire operation are those who accomplished something as a head coach.

Belichick
Parcells
Andy Reid

If we go back in Bills' history..this is like turning the keys over Kay Stephenson or Doug Marrone.

We'll see.

[cookie G]

Re: whaley fired

Every time a GM has left/been let go, Russ has gotten a promotion.

from coffee boy/salesman under Donahoe to director of non football operations in 2006;
to GM in 2009;
to CEO in 2010;
to SuperPresident/Head of Analytics Dept. in 2013..

What's left?

Supreme Commander of the European theater?
Chairman of the Join Chiefs?
Seraph?

[feldspar]

Re: whaley fired

I don't know where you're getting that from.

Well, I don't know where people get half the **** they blame Russ Brandon for, either. Kind of my point.

A certain crowd blames him for everything as if he never did anything positive. Something bad happens in their minds, and his name automatically comes up...something good happens in their minds, and his name is not mentioned.

Well, it would appear t hat you are. So....

Appearances can be deceiving. I don't really like the guy, either. I can't pin it down, but he just LOOKS like he has a sleazy aspect to him somehow.

Admit it. You don't know what he actually does. I feel people scapegoat him at random out of frustration...just blindly.

Did Brandon have something to do with the firing of Whaley? Because, I gotta tell ya that a certain demographic would probably blame him somewhat if Whaley were to retained IMO...yet won't mention his name now that Whaley got the can. That mentality makes no sense to me.

[Night Train]

Re: whaley fired

The difference is that Chuck Knox had won 5 division championships in 5 years with the Rams. As Buddo put so well, the ones who are given the keys to the entire operation are those who accomplished something as a head coach. Belichick
ParcellsAndy ReidIf we go back in Bills' history..this is like turning the keys over Kay Stephenson or Doug Marrone.We'll see.

You are correct...and after 17 years of failure, it's still not a bad idea. I'll give it a chance.

It's nice to have an owner that doesn't meddle as much, due to his concern over his snapper purse lacking coin. Pegula has the football acumen of my dog but seems indifferent to paying failures millions to leave and does look forward. Not my money, so I'll watch McDermott do his job.

[kscdogbillsfan1221]

Re: whaley fired

Every time a GM has left/been let go, Russ has gotten a promotion.

from coffee boy/salesman under Donahoe to director of non football operations in 2006;
to GM in 2009;
to CEO in 2010;
to SuperPresident/Head of Analytics Dept. in 2013..

What's left?

Supreme Commander of the European theater?
Chairman of the Join Chiefs?
Seraph?

Somehow he'll be promoted to team owner

[kscdogbillsfan1221]

Re: whaley fired

According to pegula, whaley ran the draft.

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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/04/30/bills-fire-entire-scouting-staff-along-with-doug-whaley/

[Guest]

Re: whaley fired

Every time a GM has left/been let go, Russ has gotten a promotion.

from coffee boy/salesman under Donahoe to director of non football operations in 2006;
to GM in 2009;
to CEO in 2010;
to SuperPresident/Head of Analytics Dept. in 2013..

What's left?

Supreme Commander of the European theater?
Chairman of the Join Chiefs?
Seraph?

Third Person in the Bed with Terry & Kim?

[kingJofNYC]

Re: whaley fired

Pretty wild that McDermott wields so much power as a first time coach. We basically have to start from the ground up, our pro personnel team was pretty good in making smart acquisitions and now we start from 0 on that end as well. All on McDermott.

[WagonCircler]

Re: whaley fired

Admit it. You don't know what he actually does

Sure I do. He's a weasel who sucks up to rich owners and convinces them that he has their best interests in mind, and, like any con-man, he manipulates them for his own personal gain.

Russ Brandon doesn't do anything in business that any college kid couldn't do. Marketing? He sells football tickets to Western New Yorkers. That's like selling drugs to rock stars. It doesn't take a genius.

I might be inclined to go a little easier on him had he not showed his true colors by naming himself General Manager of an NFL team. That's the most preposterous thing I've ever seen.

This idiot has ZERO football background, and he has no more insight into the game than any fan does, yet he insinuated himself into situations in which he was making or having input into football decisions.

Brandon was in charge of ticket sales for the Florida Marlins before coming to the Bills. He proceeded to ingratiate himself to a 90 year old dying man. He gained Ralph's trust like a gold digger and seized a mind boggling amount of power, none of which he deserved or was qualified to wield.

He's a worthless piece of **** whose only talent is self preservation.

He's the type of scumbag who would do just great on the TV show Survivor. And he's also the type of scumbag who never has accomplishes anything tangible. He merely takes credit for things he was a bystander for, and he evades blame for failures he should be blamed for.